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« on: March 15, 2021, 10:32:33 pm »



As-Salam Alaykum all.     This is again a disturbing forged Hadith.   It insinuates that if a large number of believers attend the janazah (funeral) of a Muslim, the deceased is more likely to acquire maghfirah from The Almighty.

Supposedly narrated by Ibn Abbas by incorrectly using the name of the final Messenger (pbuh) and it's from the Sahih Muslim collection .. "Whenever a Muslim man dies, and forty men stand for his janazah prayer, all of them not joining anything with Allah in worship, Allah grants them intercession for him."

From this arises the notion that when we pray janazah for our deceased brother or sister, we are granted intercession for them.  The greater the number of Muslims joining the prayer, the more beneficial it is for the deceased.  The Quran gives absolutely no reason to assume this.   The thoroughly unwarranted and illogical interpretation of this hadith claims that Allah Almighty takes the testimonies of the attendees in regard to the deceased's actions and deeds.   If those attendees are pleased with the deceased, Allah forgives the deceased, overlooking his or her hidden sins which the attendees didn't know.  Totally absurd!   In this case, no one would ever have to worry about their deeds.  Lots of people may like a  deceased person who may not be good in the Sight of Allah, and lots of people may dislike a deceased person who may be good in the Sight of Allah.   People forget that the standard of Divine Justice is much, much higher than what they presume for the purpose of circulating falsehood or promoting their own perspectives.

Such stuff are simply forged by people, NEVER said by our beloved Prophet (pbuh).


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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2021, 11:02:42 pm »




Completely wrong and manufactured hadith through big time forgery.    Allah keeps the record of each person in Illyin and Sijjin.   At the command of Allah, the recording angels (kiraman-katibin) are recording every single deed of every person which will be presented before them as testimony on the Day of Judgment.  As for intercession of a member of family or friend, Allah has mentioned that He may allow intercession only by those whom HE approves .. or if HE approves.  And Allah has given us no reason to assume that there will be an intercessor or intercessors pleading for each one of us. 

"That Day, no intercession will benefit except (that of) one to whom the Most Merciful has given permission and has accepted his word."  20:109  Ta Ha. 

There's absolutely NO mention of any unconditional acceptance of intercession of any janazah attendees whatsoever.

This hadith is a very careless forgery.  People should brush up their nafs and stop writing such things using the name of the beloved Prophet (pbuh).


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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2021, 11:14:50 pm »




Very true Sis.   

Isn't this forgery surprisingly reckless?!   ...  ignoring the Noble Quran as if the Final Message doesn't exist.
 

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2021, 11:16:08 pm »



Yeah ...

What else can one expect from forgeries except blunders and bloopers?
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2021, 11:20:42 pm »



lol  😀

From the perspective of this hadith, all of our kings, presidents and prime ministers who die while in office should get maghfirah because their funerals are attended by so many sycophants to intercede for them. 

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2021, 11:30:23 pm »





lol  😀

From the perspective of this hadith, all of our kings, presidents and prime ministers who die while in office should get maghfirah because their funerals are attended by so many sycophants to intercede for them. 


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Ahaa ha ha    ..  or probably the other way round.   Those flunkeys, lackeys and minions will most likely turn against our corrupt bosses on the Day of Judgment.  So the "logic" of the forged hadith may also inadvertently imply that kings and presidents will have no intercessors, being ditched by all their funeral attendees, on the Day of Judgement.

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2021, 11:34:07 pm »




hehe heh hee   😄
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2021, 11:46:16 pm »



The person who forged this hadith should have explained what about those pious and righteous believers who are alone, have no family and hardly anyone to attend their funeral except for two or three people from the masjid who are present at the burial?   Is this forgery supposed to suggest that Allah will ignore those folks because they didn't have a minimal of "forty" people to attend their funeral? 
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2021, 11:49:51 pm »



Exactly .....

These forgers wrote what they wished to suit their interest, many of their incorrect works were also politically motivated.  Most of them hadn't read even a page of the Quran.

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