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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2021, 07:12:38 am »

Exactly Sister Heba.  Again very well clarified.  I think that bit about 'nasara' defined as 'helpers' comes from Ibn Kathir's tafsirs .... and that person wrote such incorrect things, honestly!
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2021, 07:16:36 am »


Thanks brother.  Yeah, you could be right.   It's nothing unusual for Ibn Kathir to misinterpret Quranic Verses to support his own personal ideas.  Many do that, another top-notch Shaitaan was Tabari.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2021, 07:19:37 am »


O yeah, very true .....
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2021, 07:30:50 am »


I get it.  Big thanks for this very sensible, logical and truthful analysis. 

I don't know why people twist and distort facts about which they know nothing and in the process spread confusion upon confusion.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2021, 07:32:13 am »


You are welcome Sister.   
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2021, 07:05:31 am »


The other day I came across the word "nasir" (in Urdu to English dictionary if I recall correctly) and its definition was stated as 'victory' as well as 'helper.'  Any idea why this diversity of definition? 
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2021, 07:14:34 am »


The words Nasir and Naseer are variations of Nasr .. and Nasr means victory not help or helper.  That's confirmed in the Noble Quran.   

When traditionally something inaccurate comes into the pipeline such as interpreting 'nasara' as 'helper,' it goes about everywhere.   They cannot possibly deny that Nasr means victory.  To also fit it in with traditional views, they define it as 'victory' as well as 'helper.'

Nasir and Naseer are the same words as Nasr, only with a slightly differing pronunciation.  It's also a name for Muslim men.  Muslims in South Asia generally pronounce it as 'Nasir' or 'Naseer.'  In the Middle-East it's 'Nasr.'  Just as 'Shaheed' and 'Shahed' (also spelled 'Shahid')  have the same definition, only different pronunciations, it means 'witness' also used for martyrs.  Again, it's a name for Muslim men.  In South Asia they generally say 'Shahed' if used as proper noun.  In the Middle-East it's 'Shaheed.'
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2021, 07:33:30 am »


Thank you sister.   Alhumdulilah.   

Traditionalism has caused so much confusion, honestly .. !
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