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« on: October 17, 2021, 11:00:09 pm »



There was no expression of free speech in Iran during the 38-year regime of the pro-West Shah.  Sadly there is almost as little now.  However, never mind.  Free speech by itself is not the end all and be all of life, particularly considering how much the ideology of freedom of voice has been manipulated by the Western establishment.  But this is not where the commonality ends between pre and post revolution Iranians four decades after the very impressive homegrown revolution.  Tragically, 40 years down the road, some or many young Iranians are thinking on the lines that could derail the revolution at some point.

One of the reasons the parents and grandparents of the young Iranians of present times whole-heartedly supported the Islamic Revolution was their disgust of the Shah and his family.  Apart from massive monetary corruption and U.S. puppetism, the Pahlavis had ceased to identify themselves as Muslims.   The despotic and corrupt monarchy not only robbed the country blind with their Western partners, they were also an extremist-secular lot who claimed the lineage of Iranians from ignorant bullies like Darius, Cyrus, Ardashir etc.   Observing the birthday of the beloved Final Messenger (pbuh) in the Islamic month of Rabi-ul-Awal was banned by the Shah, but the so-called birthdates of Cyrus and Darius were celebrated with Tehran glittering with lights like diamonds.  The Shah's regime did everything to make Iran look like a Zoroastrian state, not an Islamic state.  The common people of Iran that was grounded in the Islamic Faith found this attitude of the monarchy galling.

Those Iranian dissidents (a small handful) who still support the Shah's family have the same attitude, most of them residing in the West in self-exile.  While discussing Persian (Iranian) history, they speak and show of nothing other than the era of the fire worshippers, the Achaemenids and the Sassanids, largely erasing the truth of the coming of Islam in Persia and the rich Islamic history of Persia that includes the Persian Renaissance.   Unfortunately this approach does not stop here.

It's been widely observed that many young Iranians currently residing in Iran and despite supporting the Islamic Revolution, define Iran's heritage only by linking the Persian culture with the Achaemenids and the Sassanids.   Their attitude is far more bitter towards the Muslim Ottomans than those ancient fire worshippers.  Consequently, orthodox Christian Armenia, has taken a special place in the heart of Iran's Islamic Republic, Tehran offering far greater favors to Yerevan (capital and largest city of Armenia) compared to Baku (Azerbaijan) which follows Shiia Islam.  Though officially Azerbaijan is secular, that is the policy of the government.  By far the majority of Azerbaijanis practice Shiia Islam yet Iranian public and officials don't see that as relevant when it comes to strange politics.  The standard excuse from these young Iranians is that Azerbaijan has cordial relations with Israel, but they are funnily oblivious of the fact that Armenia has a history of being far cozier with Israel compared to Azerbaijan.

Furthermore, four decades later, Iran's continued ostracization by the West namely the United States of America has led many post revolutionary Iranians living in Iran, yearning for Western admiration and recognition of their country and culture.  As the Westerners know very little about the rule and progress in Persia during the Rashdun, the Ommayads, Abbasids, Safavids and Zands, the bait used by modern Iranians despite their love for the revolution is the glorification of the ancient pre-Islamic Iranian culture during the Achaemenids and Sassanids whose pagan values are more appreciated by Europeans and Americans.  It's an aspect that somehow brings pre and post revolution Iranians under the same classification of values.

With the unstoppable rise of sectarianism across most parts of the pan-Islamic world in the 21st century, Iran is unfortunately no big exception and is eager to downplay the fact that Shiia Islam spread in Persia as late as the 1500s.  Prior to that, starting from 640 CE, Persia followed Sunni Islam.  Currently Iran is a bit sensitive about that part of its history, and in comparison a lot more comfortable highlighting its cultural heritage ensuing from the fire worshippers of pre-Islamic era.   Blatantly pathetic!

During the Azerbaijan-Armenia crisis in the fall of 2020, a lot of Muslims around the world could not fathom Iran's political logic. The buzzword swirling around was "Shiia Iran supporting orthodox Christian Armenia while Sunni Turkey supporting Shiia-Islam Azerbaijan ??  What the heck ?!"   Well, history of Turkey is one of the reasons for Iran's steady support for hardcore Christian Armenia despite claims of Iran's concern over the pan-Islamic state and its unity as was the focus of the founder of Iran's Islamic Revolution whose path was undoubtedly far more principled and incorruptible compared to the post-revolutionary Iranians of the 2000s.  Needless to mention, one of the chief causes of Iran's support for Armenia is its dislike for the Ottomans.   Persia, from the 1500s until the late 1800s, saw itself as a rival of the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire.  There was a series of conflicts between the Ottomans and the Safavids, Zands and Qajars.   However the major and last Ottoman-Safavid war was from the year 1623 to 1639.   Advancing half way into Iraq, the Safavids were unable to press on.   After some heavy losses, the Ottomans took back Baghdad.  The conflict ended with Ottoman victory and signing of a peace treaty.  The Ottomans retained Azer Baijan, western Armenia and western Georgia while the Safavids kept Dagestan, eastern Armenia and eastern Georgia.   It's primarily this piece of history that left Iran grinding its teeth at the Ottomans, a grievance that still hasn't fizzled away from the hearts and minds of many Iranians.  As the phrase goes "enemy's enemy is my friend," it explains Iran's crazy love affair with Armenia and support for Armenian aggression in Nagorno Karabakh.  Yet another aspect in which pre and post revolution Iran are on the same track.

All in all and over the years,  Iran has made a messy contradiction of its revolutionary values on this front.  Modern Turkey hasn't helped much either.  Both Islamic nations, instead of regretting their series of confrontations back in history, are deepening the incongruity of their claims as protectors and unifiers of the pan-Islamic world, and consequently deepening the political crisis in several spheres. 

Recapping in chronological order the rulers of Persia (Iran):
 
Here, you will observe the long stretch of history which the Islamic Republic of Iran, similar to Shah's secular Iran, has been downplaying which includes the remarkable Persian Renaissance starting in Persia (as in the Arab world) from the time of the Rashdun onward .. and how addictively the Iranian nation (both pre and post revolution) has been adorning and elevating the ancient stone-carved, lackluster and tyrannical warriors of pre-Islamic Persia, presenting them as the face of "Iranian culture" that displays little or not intellect nor civilization other than annexation of land based on brute might is right.

-  The Achaemenid dynasty from 550 to 330 BC  (pronunciation of this damn difficult word is a struggle;  it's pronounced "ak-e-men-id").  These tyrannical fire worshippers (Zoroastrians) occupied many regions.  Take a look at the map below.  Cyrus and Darius were their most infamous and despotic rulers.



-  Smaller polytheist or heathen dynasties came between Achaemenids and Sassanids, one of them was that of Alexander (330-247 BC) for 83 years and after his death started the Hellinistic period which spanned from the time of Alexander's to the defeat of Cleopatra in 31 BC.  The word Hellinistic refers to Greek history.  From 247 BC to 224 CE was the Arsacid dynasty known as parthian period.  They ruled Persia for 23 years.  Most likely their rule was across Persia and Babylon (currently Iran and Iraq).

-  Sassanid dynasty from 224 CE to 651 CE
Zoroastrian Sassanids were not a whole lot different from the Achaemenids, autocratic and occupied similar regions.  Names like Ardashir, Shapur, Bahram originated from them.  During the Shah's regime in pre-Revolution Iran, many so-called Muslims also had these Zoroastrian names.


MUSLIM DYNASTIES OF PERSIA From 820 CE to 1432 CE

~  Rashidun Caliphate: Umar bin Khattab 634–644), Usman bin Affan (644–656), Imam Ali (656–661)
~  Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750
~  Abbasid Caliphate, 750–1258 (ruling since 820)
~  Timurid dynasty  1370–1506
~  Turkmans  1375–1508
~  Safavid dynasty, 1502–1736       
~  Afghan interlude  1723-36
~  Nader Shah  1736–47
~  Afsharid dynasty, 1736–1796
~  Zand dynasty, 1750–1794
~  Qajar dynasty, 1794–1925
~  Pahlavi dynasty, 1925–1979


I hope, Insh'Allah, the readers found this informative.


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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2021, 12:26:26 am »



Extremely interesting read, Sister Heba.  I must say, you perceived and understood the psychology of the present Iranians spot on.  Apparently the old spirit of the revolution is dampening and their priorities changing.  However, Iran's animosity of the Ottomans is quite an old story.  This piece reflects that if analyzed carefully there does remain some stark resemblances between the mindset of the Shah's Iran and Iran after the Revolution.  But I wouldn't include the founder of the Islamic Revolution of Iran in the path pursued by many of his country people.

Thank you for this wonderful work, dear Sister.  Allah bless you.

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2021, 12:29:03 am »



Plenty of thanks dear Sis.   

Yeah, right.  I too wouldn't include the founder of the revolution in this muck-up mentality developing in the descendants of the revolutionaries.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2021, 05:37:08 pm »



Unfortunately yes, Sister Heba.  You nailed it   😀 

This always existed in pre-revolution Iran and started in post-revolution era since quite a few years. 

Though my mom's side of the family is from Iran, that doesn't stop her nor any of us to acknowledge aloud that a lot of things post-revolution Iran is doing makes it very similar to the tyrannical occupation of their country by the Shah, the notorious despot.  As for freedom of speech, it is definitely a little more now compared to the Shah's regime (which was no different from the brutal Romans), yet there is plenty of room for improvement.  But the adoration of pagan Persia by millions of Iranians of present-day Islamic Republic of Iran touted as their "proud heritage" is totally beyond the pale, shameful!   They forget the following:

"We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah.  For patriotism is another name for paganism.  I say let this land (Iran) burn.  I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world."
- Late Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Revolution of Iran.

When he spoke of patriotism as another name for paganism, he meant patriotism or nationalism on the basis of land, race, color or language.  Are the Iranians thinking on these lines to keep the ideology of the hard earned revolution alive? .. unfortunately no.   

Very good and educational piece.  Thank you Sister.
 
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2021, 06:08:52 pm »



As for pre-revolution Iranians, of course they make no bones about their hatred for Islam and are willing to identify themselves with any non-Monotheistic religion, but adamantly won't call themselves Muslims.  That is no secret at all.  But I didn't know much about the approach of post-revolution Iranians on this front. Thanks for educating me.  Sounds disgraceful.  I did observe now and again from the articles in Press TV and some Iranian commoners diligently tweeting and facebooking over the injustice inflicted on them by the Western establishment, which of course is true and I support them on that.  But also, I did observe their somewhat frequent softness for Armenia and dislike for Ottoman history.  I recall during the fairly recent Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict last year, we too were pretty surprised that Iran was brazenly backing Armenia.  Similarly, Iran also backs India, overlooking India's blatant, vicious and murderous violation of human rights against the Muslims of occupied Kashmir and also against the Muslims in India.  These selfish trends of Iranians have been quite open.  With such a mentality, it's no surprise that Iranians prefer to remember the pagan times of Achaemenids and Sassanids as their heritage rather than the Golden era of Islam. 

In regard to current policies, one may say why single out Iran as other Muslim countries aren't too different.  That too is true.  For example, similar to the non-Muslim countries, just about no Muslim state has yet uttered a word of condemnation for China's horrific repression of the poor Uighur Muslims of Turkmenistan.  However, concerning Iran, one of the top priorities of the Revolution was the interest of the pan-Islamic world.  If Iran fears an economic backlash from China as do other Muslim countries, okay, but why support countries like India and Armenia that are beggars themselves and do not control the global economy and at the same time overtly hurt Muslim interest.  No wonder Iran upholds the era of the Zoroastrian as the face of its culture.  What pathetic sickness!

I must say, this post was thoroughly informative.  I hope our guest readers learn from it too, Insh'Allah.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2021, 06:37:07 pm »



I get your points Sister Ruhi.  Actually, with the passage of time as the world keeps getting a more difficult place to survive in, and additionally the 4-decade-old sanctions, Iran feels it's no more able to cope with principles, both historical and present-time.  Therefore Iranian policies at the moment are quite a sad hotchpotch of contradictory values.  Embarrassing to say the least, and each time Iran tries to tackle the embarrassment, it adds more contradictions to its revolutionary ideology.  It was a grand Islamic revolution, and tarnishing its image is the most painful aspect of this story.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2021, 06:40:11 pm »



Correct brother ....
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