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Ancestral Lineage of Followers of Prophet Moses (pbuh) in Egypt (5:20 Al-Maidah)

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« on: December 06, 2021, 09:57:04 pm »

 


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“And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah's favor unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures.”  5:20  Al-Maidah.


The common query is:   The people of Prophet Moses were the oppressed ones in history, so which people does Verse 5:20 refer to?   

The refers to the past successes of Prophets Ibrahim and his lineal descendants, Ishaq, Yakob and Yusuf (peace of them all).  These were the Prophets chosen by Allah Almighty.  Alhumdulilah.  They lived in the region of Palestine and Prophet Yusuf spent much time in Egypt since a child after his envious brothers threw him into a dry well, then he was rescued by a passing caravan and sold to the ruler of Egypt (ref. V.12:21 “And he of Egypt who purchased him said unto his wife: Receive him honourably. ..”)  They were all greatly respected for their exemplary character and were successful leaders of their people.   Writes Maududi in his commentary “In contrast to the common assumption that the glory of the Israelites began from the time of Prophet Moses, the Qur’an makes it clear that the period of their real glory was long before him” and when Prophet Musa (pbuh) became the Prophet and leader of his people, it was reminiscent of that successful past.

The common message all of them conveyed was that of Monotheism (Tawheed).

Maududi errs calling them “Israelites.”  Prophet Ibrahim, his sons, grandson and great-grandson were not “Israelites.”  They were Arabs who resided in the region of Canaan (Gaza) and other parts of Palestine.   Ref V.3:67 of the Noble Quran, “Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters.”    “Israelites” were to those Hebrew-peaking people who belonged to the tribe of Israel in ancient Egypt during the time of the Pharaohs.  History contains no information of the Hebrews when Prophet Yusuf arrived in Egypt, and certainly there is no record of the Hebrews  living in any part of Palestine during the time of Prophet Ibrahim and his immediate descendants.   The Hebrews grew gradually as a community in ancient Egypt apparently consisting of the descendants of Prophet Yusuf and the descendants of his followers forming their own tribes and the Hebrew language (differing slightly from Arabic and Aramaic in the midst of the Egyptians) through the centuries that passed. They also became a marginalized community under the Pharaohs forced into hard labor.  Prophet Musa (pbuh) was of the marginalized Hebrews but was raised in the household of the Pharaoh, as ordained by Allah Almighty.   The Pharaohs spoke the ancient Egyptian language which was different from both Arabic and Hebrew.  That ancient Egyptian language has since long gone into obscurity and is no longer spoken in Egypt nor anywhere.

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2021, 10:00:24 pm »



Jazek'Allah khair Sister.  A lot of members of our virtual group discussions wouldn't know this.  I must print this and keep some time aside to read it in our next meeting, Insh'Allah.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2021, 10:01:16 pm »



You're most welcome brother.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2021, 10:05:27 pm »



Mash'Allah.   This is superb commentary.   

I am always curious about historical time lines.  Though not easy to determine in this case, roughly how many years were there between Prophets Yusuf and Musa (peace on them both)?
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2021, 10:13:58 pm »



Right sis, not easy to determine accurately at all.  The correct information is only with Allah Almighty.  Such particulars come from the many different versions of the ever-altering Bibles and the figures never tally.    According to a very, very approximate historical calculation, just to give an idea, the presumption could be:

Prophet Ibrahim lived approximately 2000 BC.  The era of Prophet Yusuf, great-grandson Prophet Ibrahim, is approximately 1900 BC.   Thus a time gap of about 100 years between them.   I reiterate, this is approximate.  Accurately only Allah knows best.   Also, please remember that this is the lineage of Prophet Ibrahim through his son Ishaq who was born when Prophet Ibrahim was quite old.  His age at the time of Prophet Ishaq’s birth is not stated in the Quran except that both he and his wife were old.  Quoting the wife of Prophet Ibrahim in the Noble Quran:  “She said, "Woe to me! Shall I give birth while I am an old woman and this, my husband, is an old man? Indeed, this is an amazing thing!" 11:72 Surah Hud.   The period in which Prophet Moses lived is reported by history as 1300 BC.  Again this must be taken as an approximate year.  The accurate information is with Allah only. Therefore, the very approximate time gap between the lives of Prophets Yusuf and Musa (peace on them both) would be around 600 years or so.  That is, Prophet Yusuf (pbuh) came approximately 600 years prior to Prophet Musa (pbuh) .. and at the time Prophet Yusuf (pbuh) came to Egypt, he was very young, probably in his mid teens.   And Allah knows best.


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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2021, 10:17:06 pm »



Jazek'Allah khair again, very sensibly perceived.  Subhan'Allah.

Isn't it also true that that ancient Egyptian language which is now obsolete was divided into various types prevailing in different ancient Egyptian historical periods ?
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2021, 10:21:30 pm »



Well yes, you're right brother.   Some historians tracking ancient history and the contradictory information of the altered Bibles have divided it into old Egyptian language, middle Egyptian, late Egyptian and coptic Egyptian (which was I suppose spoken by ancient Egyptian Christians).  I'm not sure which one was spoken in Egypt during the time of Prophet Musa (pbuh) ..... probably middle Egyptian, but really not sure.   And Allah knows best.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2021, 10:22:29 pm »



Thank you sister.
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