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« on: June 17, 2007, 03:10:54 am »

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Questions on the Prophet's polygamous marriages during the later part of his life are common and keep proliferating with different ideas of every individual, often accompanied with the standard misunderstanding of "lust" as the reason for his marriages. 

A good way to elucidate and understand is to breifly explore the Prophet's biography on the basis of the Quraan and reliable historical data.  We cannot take the Hadith into account as this is basically a collection of fictional stories by clerics of later times to promote their own ideas.  Something as important as the Prophet's personal life cannot be made to rely on such suspicious and controversial collection of writings. 

The Noble Quraan says: "And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) ...." (4:3) An-Nissa

The term "justice" doesn't simply refer to romantic affections.  More importantly, it includes financial care by the husband.  As per the rules of society and cultural demands, co-wives are always housed separately in different homes.  A husband must be in a position to provide for each wife without discrimination otherwise he is clearly not in a position to handle a polygamous marriage and must not do so. 

But to begin, let's get an idea of the status of polygamy in Islam.  Islam did not start polygamy.  Polygamy was a very old culture and the Quraan restricted that culture.  Also, as per the Quraan, polygamy is not a compulsion but simply a provision.  As Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall mentioned that in Christianity, celebacy is the ideal and monogamy the concession.  In Islam, monogamy is the ideal and polygamy the concession.  The purpose of polygamy is not (or should not be) to satisfy carnal desires.  Unless a man has a very plausible reason pertaining to family convenience, financial security or genuine compassion for providing security to a suffering woman, he must stick to monogamy.  Even for such plausible reasons, consultations with his existing wife about a co-wife marriage is a must.  If she disagrees, then the man will have to either quit the idea of a co-wife marriage, or he will have to divorce his existing wife with her due financial compensations as per Quraanic laws, and then marry the other woman.  Polygamy is not permitted in Islam without the consent of the existing wife or wives.  Thus, there's no concept of secret polygamous marriages.  This is obvious from the Prophet's biography as none of his wives were ever kept in the dark about each other. 

It should be made plain that Muslim women are not forced to accept polygamy, and they have the valid right to put a condition against it in their marriage contract.  The fact that several of those men indulging in polygamy nowadays are ignoring the Quraanic / Prophetic values and following the pre-Islamic trends of polygamy is a very different and unfortunate matter.

Now coming to the actual subject of the Prophet's marriages, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not the only Prophet who had a polygamous marriage.  It was much the same with Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon (peace on them all).  Moreover, polygamy has always been a social aspect, not religious.  It's much the same even today.  When the Prophet Muhammad was spreading the Message of the Quraan, he faced numerous hardships created by the society he lived in.  The people  brought plenty of false accusations against the Prophet to discredit the Quraan.  They called him a liar, a madman, a magician and so on.  But nobody ever accused him of loose character by misunderstanding his marriages.  That's because polygamy was looked upon as a very accepted social culture in that era. 

Various stages of the Prophet Muhammad's married life:

Firstly, the Prophet and his wives led a very austere life with only the bare necessities and no luxuries.  He was a very busy man with a constantly hectic routine.  His resposibilities as the messenger of Allah and the head of the first Muslim state in Madinah made him spend long stretches of time away from home, attending to his numerous duties.  Similarly, he wives were not idle and pleasure loving women spending their time in the luxury of comfortable harems or homes.  Rather, they were very outdoor women who led a hard life of work, toil and sacrifice. They too were constantly busy with teaching others the importance of the Divine Message, doing various charitable work, helping the poor, attending to the sick and those injured during wars etc.  In circumstances like these, romance and lust is hardly ever a factor in a marriage.

The Prophet remained single and celebate till the age of 25.

At 25, he married Khadija.  She proposed the marriage and the Prophet accepted it.  Khadija was 40 and twice divorced with children from previous marriages.  For 25 years the Prophet was very happily married and much in love with only Khadija, who bore all his children except one.  In fact, this was his only love marriage. Throughout, she remained his wife and closest friend whom he trusted the most.  When Khadija died, the Prophet was 50.  He remained deeply in love with her till he passed away, and always spoke of her with a lot of admiration.  He took special delight in cherishing Khadija's memories till his final days. 

For 2 years, from ages 50 to 52, the Prophet remained unmarried and widowed, mourning the death of his beloved wife.  He lived with his daughters during this period.

All his other marriages took place between the ages of 53 and 60.  The Prophet passed away when he was 63.

Throughout his life of 63 years, the period of the Prophet's monogamous marriage with Khadija was for 25 years, while the period of polygamous marriages was only for the last 10 years.  Thus, it's difficult (if not impossible) for any person to suddenly turn "lustful" for just 7 years of his life at age 53, after being either celebate or monogamous all his life.  Such behavioral  pattern simply doesn't conform with the realities of human nature and is never found in the text books. 

Briefly elucidating the reasons for the Prophet's marriages:

The Prophet's life regarding his marriages can be divided into 2 categories. 

1) Muhammad the man, who needed a loving wife, children, and a home, so he married Khadijah and remained only with her for 25 years until she died.

2)  Muhammad the Prophet, who later married other wives for reasons pertaining to his duty (i.e. duty as the Messenger of God and as a statesman) and for honouring ties of friendship .. all of which brought about the aspect of marriage in his life as an important factor resolving various issues.   All his other wives were women who were carefully selected, not just picked at random for satisfying "sexual desires."  Except for Aisha, they were all widows or divorcees, neither rich nor beautiful. 

Every event of history needs to be analysed according to the norms, standards and values of that particular era.  Otherwise one's perception and judgment can go completely awry. Needless to mention, the social and political traditions of that era all over the world were vastly different from today, requiring very different steps for handling matters.  In 7th century Arabia, it was customary to establish family ties, to formally seal treaties and resolve other political issues on the basis of inter-marriages between tribes, families and clans.  All of the Prophet's marriages during 7 years in Madina, and also the marriages of his daughters, were either for establishing family ties with close friends or other tribal leaders for poltical purposes.  E.g. Two of the Prophet's closest friends, Abu Bakr and Umar who were the first two righteous Caliphs, were also the fathers of his two wives Aisha and Hafsa.  Usman and Ali, the third and fourth righteous Caliphs, were married to the Prophet's daughters.  Usman married Ruqayyah and Zainab in succession, and Ali married Fatima.  Ali, who was the Prophet's first cousin, also became his son-in-law.

To offer a practical role model to Muslims for all times to come, regardless of his neutral feelings towards some of his wives , he was a perfect example of equal justice and kindness to all of them.  He never discriminated among them. 

He presented a superb example of both monogamous and polygamous marriage.

Many people ask, exactly how many wives did the Prophet have and who were they?  The Prophet had 12 wives in all, but when he died, he had 9 wives.  They all have a very special status in the hearts of Muslims.  They are all recognized as the "Mothers of the Believers" according to the dictate of the Quraan.  Their names are, in the order of marriage: Khadijah bint Khuwaylid, Sawdah bint Zamah, Aisha bint Abi Bakr, Hafsah bint Umar ibn Al-Khattab, Zaynab bint Khuzaymah, Umm Salama, Zaynab bint Jahsh, Juwayriah bint Al-Harith, Umm Habibah, Safiyah bint Huyay, Maimuna bint Al-Harith and Maria the Copt.

Although many other believing women approached Muhammad in Madina, offering him themselves in marriage, he politely turned down their offers.

Maria
Maria was not a concubine.  She was a slave owned by one of the Christian governors of Egypt.  She was given to the Prophet by the governor of Egypt as a "good-will gift" in reply to the Prophet's invitation to Islam.  Maria was sent from Egypt to Madina.  She converted to Islam while on her way to Madina.  The Prophet, instead of accepting her as a slave or concubine, married her formally with a proper dowry .. thus also elevating her status as one of the wives of the Prophet. 

Zeynab bint Jahsh
As is well known, various non-Muslim groups have systematically constructed stories with malicious intent about the Prophet's marriage with Zeynab.  They try to make it look that the Prophet saw and met Zeynab because of her marriage to his freed adopted son, Zeyd.  But after a slight historical research, and a careful reading of the Quraan, this myth has now been busted.

Zeynab was the Prophet's first cousin (daughter of his mother's sister) and the Prophet had known her since she was a child, just as anyone would know their first cousin.  She was the sister of Abdullah bin Jahsh, also the Prophet's cousin and a very close ally.  Moreover, the Prophet was the one who had arranged this marriage, so there's no question of his meeting Zeynab through Zeyd.

In his commentary of the 33rd chapter of the Quraan, M.M. Pickthall mentions that in Verse 33:37 the reference is to the unhappy marriage of Zeyd, the Prophet's freedman and adopted son with Zeynab, the Prophet's first cousin, a proud lady of Qureish. The Prophet arranged the marriage with the idea of breaking down the old barrier of pride of caste and had shown little consideration to Zeynab's feelings.  History says that both she and her brother were averse to the match and that she had always wished to marry the Prophet.  For Zeyd, the marriage was nothing but a cause of embarrassment.  When the Prophet's attention was first called to their unhappiness, he urged Zeyd to keep his wife and not divorce her, being apprehensive of the talk that would arise if it became known that a marriage arranged by him had proved unhappy.  However, the marriage became so difficult for both Zeynab and Zeyd that eventually there was no way out other than a divorce.  The Prophet married Zeynab much after Zeyd divorced her.  According to the Quraan, the importance of this event is to confirm the Quraanic law that it is permissible for a man to marry the ex-wife of his adopted son, but not the ex-wife of his biological son. 

Verse 33:37 of Surah Al-Ahzab which says "And when thou saidst unto him on whom Allah hath conferred favour and thou hast conferred favour: Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear Allah. And thou didst hide in thy mind that which Allah was to bring to light, and thou didst fear mankind whereas Allah hath a better right that thou shouldst fear Him. So when Zeyd had performed that necessary formality (of divorce) from her, We gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have performed the necessary formality (of release) from them. The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled." is the only one that talks on this topic.  Please keep in mind, this Verse is not a dictate to get Zeynab divorced for making her available for the Prophet as sarcastically claimed by non-Muslim groups with a very purposeful misinterpretation, and also as blindly believed by Hadith adherents on the basis of Hadith writings, most of which brazenly clash with Quraanic details and historical facts.  This Verse simply confirms an event and highlights the legitimacy of a particular law.  The last sentence of Verse 33:37 that states "The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled" is not directed personally at the Prophet.  "The commandment" refers to the general law of making the ex-wife of a man's adopted son legally permissible for him for marriage and its implementation.  In such a matter, the distinction between an adopted son and a biological son is the actual point of this law.  The permissibility to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son was not just for the Prophet.  It was for everyone. 

Aisha bint Abi Bakr
The presumption of Aisha's very young age of marriage with the Prophet has provided much food for thought to the critics.  However, the truth is that all that talk about Aisha's nikah at age 7 and consummation of her marriage at age 9 or 10 is another manipulative tale springing from nowhere else but the notorious Hadith institution, a renowned 'den' of lies and gossips against the Prophet.  It is only the Hadith that narrates a string of stories spreading the notion of Aisha's marriage at age 9 without citing any evidence, as usual.  Hadith has never presented any proof for anything it's claimed so far and neither have the naive faithfuls demanded it.  But after analysing and putting together various vital historical data chronologically, historians and analysts have observed and proven without a doubt that Aisha's age at the time of her marriage to the Prophet was at least between 16 to 20 years, possibly more.  Even some rational Sunni historians have totally disregarded the babblings of Hadith concerning Aisha's age of marriage to be 9 years as nonsense and after calculating from the dates of history have concluded that she could have been as much as 34 at the time of her marriage to the Prophet.  But even is she wasn't 34, she was nothing less than 16 to 20.  To read the complete compilation of analysis disproving the fairy tale of Aisha's child marriage, read the brilliant article by T.O. Shanavas titled The Ancient Myth Exposed

This is not to say that the culture of girls getting married soon after maturity was not practiced at all in the society at that time.  In fact, girls getting married at ages 11 to 13 was common as late as the early 20th century, and there was nothing unethical about it either.  Most of those marriages were actually very happy ones.  But in the case of Aisha when every bit of historical evidence points that she was much older than just 9 when married, there's absolutely no reason not to reject it and accept the correct findings based on systematic and scientific compilation of facts.

The Prophet had a total of 7 children.  Khadija was the mother of six of his children while Maria was the mother of one.  Out of the six children from Khadija, there were 4 daughters and 2 sons.  Both sons died in infancy.  The child from Maria was also a son named Ibrahim.  He too died in infancy.  The 4 daughters of the Prophet were Zainab, Roqayya, Umm Kulsoom and Fatima.

So much about the complete history of all marriages of the Prophet Muhamamd (pbuh).
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 02:50:25 am »

Thank u for this very important article zeynab.  The points have been very well pieced together.  Even though I'm well acquainted with these truths, yet I found it very useful.  I hope other readers feel the same. 

JazekAllah Khair.  peace.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 01:17:36 am »




Zeynab bint Jahsh
As is well known, various non-Muslim groups have systematically constructed stories with malicious intent about the Prophet's marriage with Zeynab.  They try to make it look that the Prophet saw and met Zeynab because of her marriage to his freed adopted son, Zeyd.  But after a slight historical research, and a careful reading of the Quraan, this myth has now been busted.

Zeynab was the Prophet's first cousin (daughter of his mother's sister) and the Prophet had known her since she was a child, just as anyone would know their first cousin.  She was the sister of Abdullah bin Jahsh, also the Prophet's cousin and a very close ally.  Moreover, the Prophet was the one who had arranged this marriage, so there's no question of his meeting Zeynab through Zeyd.

In his commentary of the 33rd chapter of the Quraan, M.M. Pickthall mentions that in Verse 33:37 the reference is to the unhappy marriage of Zeyd, the Prophet's freedman and adopted son with Zeynab, the Prophet's first cousin, a proud lady of Qureish. The Prophet arranged the marriage with the idea of breaking down the old barrier of pride of caste and had shown little consideration to Zeynab's feelings.  History says that both she and her brother were averse to the match and that she had always wished to marry the Prophet.  For Zeyd, the marriage was nothing but a cause of embarrassment.  When the Prophet's attention was first called to their unhappiness, he urged Zeyd to keep his wife and not divorce her, being apprehensive of the talk that would arise if it became known that a marriage arranged by him had proved unhappy.  However, the marriage became so difficult for both Zeynab and Zeyd that eventually there was no way out other than a divorce.  The Prophet married Zeynab much after Zeyd divorced her.  According to the Quraan, the importance of this event is to confirm the Quraanic law that it is permissible for a man to marry the ex-wife of his adopted son, but not the ex-wife of his biological son. 

Verse 33:37 of Surah Al-Ahzab which says "And when thou saidst unto him on whom Allah hath conferred favour and thou hast conferred favour: Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear Allah. And thou didst hide in thy mind that which Allah was to bring to light, and thou didst fear mankind whereas Allah hath a better right that thou shouldst fear Him. So when Zeyd had performed that necessary formality (of divorce) from her, We gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have performed the necessary formality (of release) from them. The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled." is the only one that talks on this topic.  Please keep in mind, this Verse is not a dictate to get Zeynab divorced for making her available for the Prophet as sarcastically claimed by non-Muslim groups with a very purposeful misinterpretation, and also as blindly believed by Hadith adherents on the basis of Hadith writings, most of which brazenly clash with Quraanic details and historical facts.  This Verse simply confirms an event and highlights the legitimacy of a particular law.  The last sentence of Verse 33:37 that states "The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled" is not directed personally at the Prophet.  "The commandment" refers to the general law of making the ex-wife of a man's adopted son legally permissible for him for marriage and its implementation.  In such a matter, the distinction between an adopted son and a biological son is the actual point of this law.  The permissibility to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son was not just for the Prophet.  It was for everyone. 



Thank you sister Zeynab for this very interesting discourse .. forthright and to the point.  It was a good idea to give additional clarification on the marriages with Marya, Zeynab and Aisha (may Allah be pleased with them) about whom some groups of people talk the most.  I especially read with interest the details on Zeynab bint Jahsh.  So does this mean Verse 33:37 was revealed after the Prophet's (pbuh) marriage?
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2007, 03:00:38 am »


Thank u zeynab for this very interesting discourse .. So does this mean Verse 33:37 was revealed after the Prophet's (pbuh) marriage?

Salaams and hi PT.  Yes, I think it's more than obvious that this verse was revealed well after the Prophet's marriage to Zeinab bint Jahsh.  This might raise the quesiton in one's mind that in this case, did the Prophet (pbuh) independently decide to marry Zeinab?  Again, I would say, yes and there's nothing wrong with that.  The Prophet (and also the rest of us) can make independent decsions concerning our personal lives based on the basic Quraanic guidelines.  Verse 4:23 of Surah An-Nur already mentions a list of women that are forbidden for marriage:

"Forbidden unto you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your father's sisters, and your mother's sisters, and your brother's daughters and your sister's daughters, and your foster-mothers, and your foster-sisters, and your mothers-in-law, and your step-daughters who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in - but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) - and the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have two sisters together, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful."

This verse states that one is not to marry the divorced wife of one's biological son, clearly referring that the divorced wife of his adopted son is lawful for him. 

Verse 33:37 regarding Zeinab's marriage is from Surah Al-Ahzab which is the 33rd chapter of the Quraan.  This is a Madinah Surah revealed between the end of the 5th and 7th year of the Hijrah.

The above verse 4:23 from Surah An-Nur, also a Madinah Surah, was revealed months after the Battle of Uhad, between the 3rd and 4th year of the Hijrah.

Therefore, the primary law permitting marriage between a man and the divorced wife of his adopted son had already been introduced.  It's very likely that the Prophet's decision was on this Quraanic guideline.  Even otherwise, it would be perfectly understandable if the Prophet married Zeinab based on his own best discretion.  Had it been a wrong step not approved by the Almighty Allah, He would have corrected the Prophet with a revelation in the Quraan (as Allah had corrected the Prophet regarding certain other minor mistakes E.g. Surah Abasa, 80:1-4) and in that case the Prophet would have to revoke this marriage.  But since it was in accordance with Quraanic law, Allah approved and confirmed it as we see in Surah 33:37. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2007, 04:53:44 am »

Right, get your point.  If one's focused on the Quran only, along with chronological info, your assessment is very logical.  But if you describe this to the hadithers, they'll disagree.  I've observed, don't know why, they interpret in a way so as to show that verse 37 of surah Al-Ahzab was a command to marry.  I guess that's apparently because they haven't even read the verse, leave alone trying to understand it.

And I was reading wikipedia.  That tallies with your analysis that the Quranic verse 33:37 was revealed after the marriage confirming this law.

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Zaynab bint Jahsh was from Bani Asad bin Khuzaimah and was Muhammad's paternal cousin. She was married to Muhammad's ex-slave and adopted son, Zayd ibn Harithah. Islam prohibited adopting sons and giving them father's name. (Al-Quran-33:5) After this, Zaid was called ibn Haritha instead of ibn Muhammad. Zaid divorced his wife Zaynab bint Jahsh and later on Muhammad married Zainab. Further revelations from Quran proved that this marriage is valid as there is no longer a concept of adopted son.[Al-Qur'an 33:37, 33:40]

Muhammad married her in Dhul-Qa‘dah, the fifth year of Al-Hijra.


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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 07:53:06 am »

The Prophet's marriage to Hazrat Aisha is one of the most common attacks that critics of Islam use. inface i have read  few years back ( All the Muslim scholars agree that the Prophet and Hazrat Aisha were engaged for nearly three years before marriage mean engagmant of age ?  can be decided with hadith claim ) Islam does not support this claim. such a false charge of hadith is completely  dismissed. jazak Allah sister zeynab wonderful article.

sister help me to understand is this true claim ?

The Arabs consider bad luck / poor when making aqad wedding in the month of  Shawwal .So the Prophet (pbuh) wsa usually ordered by almighty Allah to refuse such tradition through personal example to marry aisha in the month of Shawwal ?
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 03:41:51 am »


sister help me to understand is this true claim ?

The Arabs consider bad luck / poor when making aqad wedding in the month of  Shawwal .So the Prophet (pbuh) wsa usually ordered by almighty Allah to refuse such tradition through personal example to marry aisha in the month of Shawwal ?


Salaam sister Muslima.  Every claim of the Hadith must be taken with a big pinch of salt .. most of them discarded altogether.  The best way to avoid confusion is to simply utilize the Noble Quran as our sole Criterion or Furqan.  That's because Allah has commanded us in the Quran that His Final Message is the standard for all judgments & decisions for believers.   The Quran definitely rejects all forms of superstitions and it does not disallow marriages to take place in Shawwal.  The Quran also does not mention anything about the month or date of any of the Prophet's marriages.  Furthermore, we cannot also be sure if the Arabs in the 7th century were really superstitious about not getting married in Shawwal (or between the two Eids as is commonly presumed) or was this a superstitious custom of ancient Persia introduced into the Hadith by the Persian imams like Bukhari etc.  There has been so much bungling in the Hadith history that it's impossible to confirm any of the stories or gossips that are circulated within the Hadith literature.   Frankly, the Quran does not even mention about the celebration of Eid-al-fitr after Ramadan.  Although the Noble Quran has described the importance of the month of Ramadan in detail and also the method of fasting, yet there is absolutely no mention of marking the end of Ramadan with a feast or any such celebration as is practiced now in the name of Eid-al-fitr.  And anything not instructed by Allah would never be introduced by the Prophet (pbuh).  It is thought by many researchers and historians that the practice of Eid-al-fitr as a formal custom began much after the passing away of the Prophet (pbuh) by the medieval imams.  All of these Persian imams from Khorasan and adjoining regions who came to Arabia to compile the Hadith were recent converts to Islam from Zoroastrianism.  They converted mainly for practical benefits but at heart were still inclined to following many of the pre-Islamic traditions of their ancestors.   And if you study the old history of different communities, you will observe that in pre-Islamic culture, the ending of religious practices would often be marked by a celebration with fun & jubilation.  

We only know for sure on the basis of Quranic principles that there should not be any marriages in the month of Ramadan because this is the month of the Quran and reserved for fasting and worship.  Also, there is not to be any marriages while one is performing Hajj.  Therefore, the Prophet's marriage to Aisha could have taken place on any one of the months within the Islamic calendar except Ramadan and Zul-Hijjah.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 03:04:49 pm »

wsalam thanks for clear explanation yes u are right sister heba.Hadith literature and converted imams histriones create confusion for many muslims. introduction of hadith collection ( recorded sayings of prophet ) considered as basic and easy sourec for teachings of islam in schools but actually it gose against the teaching of quran. idolism of imams promoted culture right from schools to reading history books and accessive material create doubts for many common readers.such a shame we just guided to read Quran as only holy book rather than promoted to reading Quran as complete Divine message without hadith support..mv help me alot to understand many things jazak Allah sister


sister heba you answer my next question very intersting point honestly speaking its never appealing for me too..
Chaand raat itself not a festival but it is a celebration related to the eid-ul-fitr .spending money Besides Quran teaching,extra efforts to make everything most appealing home decoration,new clothes ,To add to the charm of activity is applying henna on hands , bangles,fashion accessories without any Quranic evedinece of eid ul fitr. to me celebraion seems like celebrating freedom from strict hard worship no practical change,no taqwa after whole month ramadan practice. may Allah grant us his mercy
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 11:14:37 pm »

Dear sister Muslima .... may Allah bless you for your intelligent insight.  Everything you said is very correct.   Yes .. many teachings of our imams and ulemas clearly go against the Noble Quran, and the true and real Islam comes only from the Quran alone.  

You are right about idolizing the imams.  It's taught to us from childhood that our imams can never be wrong.  I would say, it surely goes against the Quran because Allah forbids us from blind following of anything.  The Noble Quran mentions in almost every Surah the huge importance of thinking and reflecting upon the truth.  Therefore whenever someone says something (imam or whoever), we must first analyze their ideology and accept it only if we find it compatible with the principles of the Quran.  Otherwise, it has to be rejected no matter how popular that imam is.  This culture of idolizing the imams comes from Christianity and Judaism where their clerics comprising of the priests, bishops, popes and rabbis etc.  are considered infallible who must be obeyed unconditionally.  But in Islam as per the rules of the Noble Quran, we have no such unconditional obligations toward other humans.  We are expected to respect and obey them only as long as they speak in conformity with the Quran .. and unfortunately many things said by the imams are not in conformity with the Noble Quran.  

You are also very right in stating that the Quran is the only Book which Allah wants us to follow to acquire guidance.  And the Quran is an independent and standalone Book.  Alhumdulilah.  It does not need the explanations of man-written literature to be understood as claimed by the imams who wrongly propagate that "Hadith explains the Quran and without Hadith we cannot understand the Quran."  Nauzbillah.  I consider such a statement as blasphemy.

That reminds me to also briefly discuss the falsehood of the concept of so-called "sunnah" as claimed by our ulemas and imams.  You will always observe them adding the term "sunnah" with the Quran.  Their standard explanation for this is that "Quran is the Book of Allah and sunnah is the tradition of the Prophet and to be a Muslim we must combine both."  If you ponder carefully on this statement, you will perceive that it's neither logical nor correct.  Allah has told us NOT to combine any other source of guidance with His Book.  In the lifetime of the beloved Prophet (pbuh), there was no such thing as "sunnah" in the context that it is used today. This came up much later.  The term "sunnah in the Quran refers to the conduct of all Prophets who took their rules of conduct from the original Divine Messages that were revealed to them from Allah Almighty.  It is the same in the case of the Final Messenger, Muhammad (pbuh).  But from the way our imams talk about "Quran and sunnah (or traditions of the Prophet)" they plainly refer to the Quran and sunnah being 2 different things.  They forget that Islam is a purely Monotheistic Faith (Tawheed) and we are to take our instructions only from Allah.  Therefore, my question from the imams is, from where do they think the Prophet (pbuh) took his traditions .. from Qureysh, from the Ansars of Medinah, from ancient Persia, from the Byzantine empire, from the Copts of Egypt OR from the NOBLE QURAN ?   Surely it's a very simple question to answer.  The Prophet (pbuh) strictly took all his guidelines from the Quran and NO other source.  And the Quran is NOT the words of the Prophet, but it is the Word of Allah.  Therefore, the reliable & truthful tradition of the Prophet (pbuh) can only be taken from the Quran and no other source.
 
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sister heba you answer my next question very intersting point honestly speaking its never appealing for me too..
Chaand raat itself not a festival but it is a celebration related to the eid-ul-fitr .spending money Besides Quran teaching,extra efforts to make everything most appealing home decoration,new clothes ,To add to the charm of activity is applying henna on hands , bangles,fashion accessories without any Quranic evedinece of eid ul fitr. to me celebraion seems like celebrating freedom from strict hard worship no practical change,no taqwa after whole month ramadan practice. may Allah grant us his mercy

You are right again sister.  All these traditions of applying henna on hands, buying bangles, new clothes, new shoes, preparing lots of food for guests etc. are supposed to be preparations for the day of Eid-al-fitr.  If I'm not mistaken, most of these traditions you mentioned are popular among Muslims of Pakistan.  But Muslims of other countries also have other traditions which are equally unnecessary and hypocritical.  As a result, even a poor man is often forced to spend considerably beyond his means by the pressures of such useless and extravagant social traditions.  This is NOT what the Noble Quran tells us to do and therefore this is surely NOT what the Prophet taught us to do.  I totally agree with your observation .. as soon as Ramadan is over, the preparations for the celebration start with such gusto that it seems these people are expressing their relief that Ramadan is over.  It's really very sad. May Allah Almighty grant them guidance and insight before it's too late for them.  

Although my family and I try our best to observe Eid (or 1st of Shawwal) in a very simple way, I have to admit that Eid-al-Fitr is an extra-Quranic law, not a Quranic law.  Our mainstream brothers and sisters will never agree with this and might even get very angry if I suggest this to them.  But that is expected.  Majority of the people in this world have since long had a problem accepting the truth.  
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 12:00:24 am »

That's a very interesting discussion.  JazekAllah khair, sisters Muslima and Heba.  

In this regard let me add that not just Eid-al-Fitr, but Eid-al-Adha is also not a celebration as we make it today.  Rather, what we have named as Eid-al-Adha is one of the obligatory steps (or rituals) of Hajj in commemoration of Prophet Abraham and his son, Prophet Ishmael, as per the dictates of the Glorious Quran.  The purpose of this practice is largely charitable, it is not a celebration. By sacrificing an animal after the completion of Hajj, we are to thank Allah and distribute most of it to the poor & needy and keep a portion for our family.  That's all.  In contrary to this, look how extravagantly Eid-al-Adha is celebrated nowadays with a full party spirit.  It's an excuse for lavish get-togethers and dinners in the homes of the wealthy and middle-class alike with a variety of rich food laid across the table for their well-to-do relatives and friends who are surely neither needy nor poor.   They hardly think of the poor.  At best the poor might get a small portion or just the left over crumbs after the partying is over.  

Also, what I understand from the Quran, sacrificing an animal at the end of Hajj is obligatory only for those performing Hajj.  The Quran does not say that everyone around the world must sacrifice an animal at this time of the year.  However, since it is purely a charitable act, therefore it's okay even if those not performing Hajj want to participate in the sacrifice (if they can afford it financially).  But it should not be turned into an extravagant celebration.  That would completely change the purpose of this practice, which is what Muslims are doing at present, unfortunately.  
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That's another very thoughtful point sister Zeynab.
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You are right again sister.  All these traditions of applying henna on hands, buying bangles, new clothes, new shoes, preparing lots of food for guests etc. are supposed to be preparations for the day of Eid-al-fitr.  If I'm not mistaken, most of these traditions you mentioned are popular among Muslims of Pakistan.  But Muslims of other countries also have other traditions which are equally unnecessary and hypocritical.  As a result, even a poor man is often forced to spend considerably beyond his means by the pressures of such useless and extravagant social traditions.  This is NOT what the Noble Quran tells us to do and therefore this is surely NOT what the Prophet taught us to do.  I totally agree with your observation .. as soon as Ramadan is over, the preparations for the celebration start with such gusto that it seems these people are expressing their relief that Ramadan is over.  It's really very sad. May Allah Almighty grant them guidance and insight before it's too late for them.  

Although my family and I try our best to observe Eid (or 1st of Shawwal) in a very simple way, I have to admit that Eid-al-Fitr is an extra-Quranic law, not a Quranic law.  Our mainstream brothers and sisters will never agree with this and might even get very angry if I suggest this to them.  But that is expected.  Majority of the people in this world have since long had a problem accepting the truth.  

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Aoa sister heba they dont only become angry we are wajib-ul-Qatal for them Cheesy you are right (truth is bitter) for celebrations amongs muslims traditions are different but behaviour are almost the same it is very importent to realize spending money on over luxurious,unnecessary occasions on the name of unquranic celebrations is not the attitude of moderation that Quran teaches infacet the Quran regards excessive materialism an animal like behavior.One of the basic morals in Islam is to control excessive self love as found in the Quran in
 And whoso is saved from his own avarice - such are they who are successful.59:9
 
a sense of balance in the heart and mind of the believer. Quran condemns and discourages excessive materialism whatever is that.
 

In addition to this moderation allows people to share with others and to show concern for others. If one is so obsesses with achieving the maximum pleasure (hedonistic attitude) one would have nothing left to help the poor and needy
 


Hast thou observed him who belieth religion? That is he who repelleth the orphan,And urgeth not the feeding of the needy.(107: 1-3 )
 


Your wealth and your children are only a temptation, whereas Allah! with Him is an immense reward.64:15



so sad we spend blessed month of ramadan more than half in iftar parties and rest in preparation of eid- ul -fitr shoping etc
why not individuals to step forward to support one family provide enough food for one month,sponsored for the entire month of Ramadan.rather than following a trend among some Muslims to host huge useless family iftar parties,feel light (free from burden of worship) happily get busy in eid celebrations..more family lunches to gain more weight afters whole month iftar parties

no one can see the spiritual and physical benefits of ramadan in eid celebrations
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 10:44:28 am »

That's a very interesting discussion.  JazekAllah khair, sisters Muslima and Heba.  

In this regard let me add that not just Eid-al-Fitr, but Eid-al-Adha is also not a celebration as we make it today.  Rather, what we have named as Eid-al-Adha is one of the obligatory steps (or rituals) of Hajj in commemoration of Prophet Abraham and his son, Prophet Ishmael, as per the dictates of the Glorious Quran.  The purpose of this practice is largely charitable, it is not a celebration. By sacrificing an animal after the completion of Hajj, we are to thank Allah and distribute most of it to the poor & needy and keep a portion for our family.  That's all.  In contrary to this, look how extravagantly Eid-al-Adha is celebrated nowadays with a full party spirit.  It's an excuse for lavish get-togethers and dinners in the homes of the wealthy and middle-class alike with a variety of rich food laid across the table for their well-to-do relatives and friends who are surely neither needy nor poor.   They hardly think of the poor.  At best the poor might get a small portion or just the left over crumbs after the partying is over.  

Also, what I understand from the Quran, sacrificing an animal at the end of Hajj is obligatory only for those performing Hajj.  The Quran does not say that everyone around the world must sacrifice an animal at this time of the year.  However, since it is purely a charitable act, therefore it's okay even if those not performing Hajj want to participate in the sacrifice (if they can afford it financially).  But it should not be turned into an extravagant celebration.  That would completely change the purpose of this practice, which is what Muslims are doing at present, unfortunately.  


aoa sister zeynab
absoulotly right its beyond understanding

Sacrificing an animal is a Hajj Ritual is a reflection of specific Sunnah of Hajj from Ibrahim (as).All rituals of Hajj is for Hajis 2:196  ?

 why all muslims secrifiece animal? for show off most expancive animal only to fill our deepfrizers ?
 we are far away from Quran. we are our own worst enemy .sister zeynab u mention the strong piont there is no evidance in quran? every muslims sacrifice animal.very good observation sister such understanding of quran can make big relief for those who really facing many problems only for show off(forcefully)
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