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« on: December 01, 2007, 07:07:27 pm »

Very interesting, brother.  The faulty vision of disbelievers actually exposes the Truth still more clearly to a believer.  Verse 146 of Surah Al-Araf is a real powerful one.  This is what Allah means when He says that He grants guidance only to those who seek it.  Thus, each person has to initiate the destination of their fate and then Allah responds accordingly.  His tests are included in His responses.  Educational and technical advancement that provides knowledge and reflective perceptive is greatly encouraged in the Quraan.  Such knowledge is meant to further affirm the unique presence of our great Creator, the Almighty Allah, in our minds on the basis of facts & reason.  But it's unfortunate that most humans abuse education and knowledge and misuse it to promote their arrogance by rejecting Allah and thinking themselves too independent.  All such rejecters always leave certain questions unanswered.  This person gives credit to millions of years of evolution for designing the human anatomy.  But what he hasn't thought about is - Who has been controllings every ongoing process since millions of years and more, both within our planet and throughout the cosmos?   What makes these millions of years go by with all its occurences?  Not to mention, even researchers do acknowledge that there comes a point beyond which they cannot proceed .. where they must draw a line.  They try to avoid this issue but they don't (rather cannot) deny it.  They also admit that whatever theories they've constructed based on their studies is only the human perception.  The reality according to God could be totally different, and quite beyond scientific or any sort of physical comprehension.  Therefore, it all boils down to humility which is the most important pre-requisite for a person to begin understanding Faith and the Divine Power.  We have to begin by accepting that just because the Unseen is beyond our limited comprehension does not mean it's to be rejected.  With such foolish rejections we could end up wrecking our souls unknowingly. To be honest, it hurts me so much to watch our fellow human beings refuse the recognition of Allah on the basis of their own limited vision, a recognition that is the due right of Allah and none else.  And yes, at such times verses like 31:23-24 and other similar ones are so comforting for a believer.

And whosoever disbelieves, then do not be saddened by their disbelief. To Us is their ultimate return, then We will inform them of what they had done. God is fully aware of what is inside the chests. We let them enjoy for a while, then We commit them to severe retribution. [Qur'an 31:23-24]

Allah tells the Prophet to not be saddened by those who disbelieve after him inviting them. It is also applicable to us. So we should not feel despondant but feel that we have done our best, and then it is upto Allah if He guides them or not. The Verse points out that some of them are destined for a 'severe retribution', there is nothing we can do to turn Allah's decree around.

Alhamdulilah, I can only agree with u brother.

"You cannot make the dead hear, nor can you make the deaf hear the call when they turn their backs and flee. Nor can you guide the blind from their misguidance. You can only make those who believe in Our revelations hear you, for they have surrendered." [Qur'an 27:80:81]

A remarkable verse with a deep meaning.  Praise be to Allah.  As we would know, the terms 'surrender' and 'submission' are synonymous with believers in the Noble Quraan.  I would interpret these terms as symbolic of total humility in the presence of God.  The world consists of people with an amalgam of temperaments.  There are egoistical ones and those who're down-to-earth among themselves.  But whether egoistical or cool with one another, what brings about the final destruction of a soul is when its sight becomes dim to the remembrance of the Divine Power and it looks upon Him with materialistic self-pride and independence.  Such a soul will never be capable of surrendering because it's not humble.

My despise of the disbelief of the person in my example further strengthened my love for those who TRULY believe with certainty. I could see that believers should love one another as the manifestation of their love for Allah for having guided them. However, it is hard to find those who truly believe. Because to truly believe, one needs to display the charecteristics of a true believer as described by the Qur'an. Going back to the Verse, doing some acts of worship like Salah does not mean one is a true believer. It means there is a chance that this person may be a true believer.

I connect with you one hundred per cent.  A disbeliever is indeed unfortunate, and what makes their situation still more dismal is that they're hardly aware of the extent of damage they're inflicting upon their souls each day.  Thus, my sadness is also overcome with sorrow for their existence when I constantly pray to Allah to show some some light to whichever of such persons He considers might be responsive.  But despite my sorrow, I cannot help but experience repugnance within my heart when I hear the talk of disbelievers and their supreme confidence as if they control the world.  I think, being a believer, my repugnance of such an attitude is a natural feeling.   However, it's very hard to convey this to others.  It's not uncommon by secularists to label such feelings as 'intolerance.' though nothing could be farther from the truth.  What I experience in my heart is a personal feeling of deep disagreement, not intolerance.  There's a huge difference between disagreement and intolerance, a difference which secular forces mistakenly or purposely overlook.  A true believer can never be intolerant of their surroundings which itself is against the principles of belief.  But just like anyone else, believers too have the entitlement to disagree and speak accordingly. 

Finally, some things I want to mention from our Verse 2:177. It tells us to keep to our pledges. "little" things like trying best to turn up in time for an arranged meeting, to turn up at all. When giving the word to some one that you will do someting for them, do it. If you cant, make necessary and kind way to dissolve the resposnsibility. To be patient in times of hardship and stress. Other Verses indicates all trouble and misfortune falls by Allahs will only. Accept Allah's destiny and persevere untill His help comes, whenever it is destined to be.

Oh yes .. and I think we Muslims need to brush up a great deal on such everyday practical issues.  The Noble Quraan being a complete code of life, is a great place for promoting good manners, etiquettes, importance of punctuality and adhering to promises of honesty, treaties, documents etc. 

Apart from the rampant financial corruption and cheating, the concept of punctuality is totally absent from the Muslim society.  In many Muslim countries if a wedding invitation card mentions the time of commencement of the ceremony at 6.00 p.m., you could easily walk in at 8.00 p.m. and yet be one of the first to arrive.  Ridiculous as it may sound, it's true and totally incompatible with the description of an upright believer in the Quraan. 

Another gesture of bad manners that's commonplace in most Muslim societies is turning up suddenly as surprise visitors in the homes of relatives and friends.  These visitors are oblivious of the inconveniene they cause to their hosts with their surprise visits.  Regarding this practice the Noble Quraan says to the visitor (even in those days when there were no telephones, not even front-door bells) to announce their arrival by calling out to the housefolks from the front entrance.  And if it's not convenient for the hosts to receive them for any personal reasons, they should not insist and simply go away.  But according to the present culture of our Ummah, it's not even incumbent on a guest to think about the host's personal convenience.  A host has to look upon it as a bounden duty to entertain all casual guests.  The concept of the Noble Quraan on this issue is clearly the opposite.  This doesn't mean hospitality is not important.  But the Quraan promotes the most practical approach of balancing the convenience of both the guests and the hosts. 


A Verse indicated that with hardship, there comes ease  have faith in what Allah says. With this steadfastness, the believer is able to take rational and beneficial actions to improve the situation they are in.

Ah! yes brother, this is Surah Al-Inshirah.  I usually recite it in my Asr salaah when I'm right in the middle of my day and anxiety from various worldly sources seems to be at its peak.  This Surah brings a sea of comfort to my heart, Alhamdulilah!

1. Have We not caused thy bosom to dilate,
2. And eased thee of the burden
3. Which weighed down thy back;
4. And exalted thy fame ?
5. But lo! with hardship goeth ease,
6. Lo! with hardship goeth ease;
7. So when thou art relieved, still toil
8. And strive to please thy Lord.
(94:1-8)


We also learn that afflictions WILL fall man (which is why the Verse mentions how the believer responds) - this does not mean Allah does not exist, it would be the most unwise thing to do as it would mean turning blind to the millions of signs in the heavens and the earth of Allahs existance. Rather find ways to draw beneficial conclusions from the difficult experiences. 

Very needful clarification.  Most people tend not to understand this aspect.  Afflictions might fall on persons who are apparently obedient to God, and then everyone asks 'why?'  Such a query generally comes from quarters where the sole focus is on earthly life and the truth of the Hereafter is ignored completely.  The fact is that this world is not a place for constant comfort and joy.  It's a venue for tests and tribulations, and the characteristics of our reactions depending on the quality & depth of our Faith.  Despite that, God has blessed us with numerous happiness in this temporary life on the basis of His unlimited bounty and mercy.   It's true that earthly tests are often very difficult to endure.  The only thing that eases this pressure is our resignation and recognition of the Truth.  A challenging spirit only makes the matter infinitely harder to cope with.  These tests and how we handle them with the help of Faith is the basic purpose of life, as I see it.  Secondly, every reward of perseverence during such trials might not necessarily come in this world.  Usually the fruitful outcome in this world is very little compared to the Hereafter.  In my opinion, Allah makes it very clear in the Quraan that reward & punishment for hard work & disobedience respectively corresponds to the Hereafter primarily.  The secondary reference is to the earthly world.   This can be difficult for those to understand who don't at all harbour the concept of the Hereafter.  They would only make light of this unshakable Truth.   


Anyway, I have benefitted a lot from all the thoughts in this thread .. 

Alhamdulilah, so have I my brother.  I hope it's been the same with anyone else who's read this thread.

Thanks yet again for this very reflective example, brother.  It further exposes the blunders and loopholes disbelievers get themselves stuck into and yet pretend to be convinced of their infallibility.  How correctly the Noble Quraan describes such attitudes!  Praise be to Allah.


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