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Posted on: August 03, 2022, 08:01:19 pm
Posted by: Mahmud
I do my Dohr and Asr at work.  Dohr during the lunch break between 12.30 pm and 1.15 pm, and Asr before leaving work at the end of the day at 5.30 pm.  Fortunately there are quite a few Muslims at my workplace so we have a small room for prayers. 
Posted on: August 03, 2022, 05:18:08 pm
Posted by: Wisam
and what about Dohr and Asr salah? 
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 11:09:53 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker

You're welcome.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 11:07:01 pm
Posted by: Mahmud
Thank you very much for your help.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 11:04:19 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker

Okay, so if I combine Maghrib and Isha, do I have to wait a little while between the two prayers like 10 or 15 minutes? 

No, you don't have to.  You can offer Isha as soon as you finish Maghrib.  What people usually do in such a situation is to offer Maghrib about 10 or 15 minutes after its starting time.  So by the time you finish Maghrib, it will be somewhat dark and then you offer Isha immediately.

and if on certain days I am too, too tired, can I offer only the fard of both salats, i.e. 3 rakats Maghrib and 4 rakats Isha? 

Yes, on such days offer only the fard rakahs of both salah.  But whenever you feel you can manage the additional nafl (or sunnah) and witr rakahs as well, please do offer them.   
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 10:50:35 pm
Posted by: Mahmud
Okay, so if I combine Maghrib and Isha, do I have to wait a little while between the two prayers like 10 or 15 minutes?

and if on certain days I am too, too tired, can I offer only the fard of both salats, i.e. 3 rakats Maghrib and 4 rakats Isha?
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 10:47:52 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker

Walaykum Salam.  I understand such situations commonly arise in the modern world particularly in the western world where the nature of work & rules are very tough.  In view of everything you mentioned, you are already offering Fajr qada after waking up, so I would suggest continue it that way.  Insh'Allah, as days get shorter, you would be able to catch on with the Fajr timings and offer it on time.  As for Isha, it's surely unfortunate that you don't get the time to offer it qada either.  I would suggest, you try to combine Maghrib and Isha.  Soon after you finish Maghrib, offer Isha.  If you are too tired, just offer the 4 fard rakahs of Isha at least.  Here too, Insh'Allah as the days get shorter, Isha timings will also keep getting earlier.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 10:36:44 pm
Posted by: Mahmud
Salam.  I wish to put a question in this thread.  Sometimes in a difficult life younger people also face a lot of exhaustion.  I am only 30 but my job is very hard, in a production factory where I have to stand and handle automatic equipment for 8 to 10 hours.  When I come home I feel so tired I can hardly hold my head straight. Do my wudu and shower, then eat dinner and offer Maghrib.  A lot of time I too can't keep awake another one hour for Isha so I go to sleep.  To be able to attend work the next day, I need 8 hours of sleep, not less, maybe little more sometimes.  Unfortunately I miss Fajr but do offer qaza after waking.  Usually I am in a hurry in the morning and don't get time to do both Isha and Fajr.  Many times Isha is left undone.  Any thoughts or ideas how to handle the situation so that I can at least offer both prayers even if it's qaza?   
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 01:02:13 pm
Posted by: Nadia Noor
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 01:00:50 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

Well yes, it would not be right for young or younger people in good and normal health.  But when we're talking about those of advanced age with health issues, it's a different matter and needs to be assessed differently as supported by the Noble Quran.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 12:55:41 pm
Posted by: Nadia Noor
JazekAllah khairan, sister.  Very nice reply.  My husband was of the view that offering Isha and Fajr qada every day is not right.  My father was also worried about this point.  I thought of taking the opinion of people here in Muslim Villa.  JZK again.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 12:49:37 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

Walaikum As-Salam.  No, in this case it is not any violation, not from my perspective.  Deterioration of health and weakness causing exhaustion at an elderly age is a natural phenomenon.  There is nothing one can do to reverse it nor is it anyone's fault.   Allah Almighty has already made it clear in His Final Message that He has not placed any hardship in religion (ref. V.22:78).  Allah has also stated that He does not task any soul beyond its scope (ref. V.2:286).  Furthermore kindly read V.73:20 of Surah Al-Muzzamil which refers to salat al-leil or tahajjud prayer.  That was a time in Medinah when many  new Muslims were eager to follow the Prophet (pbuh) as he worshiped Allah Almighty.  In V.73:20 The Almighty tells the Prophet (pbuh) to recite as much of the Quran which is easy for him.  This implies to keep the prayer short so that those who are sick (either because of old age or any other reason) or those who have to go to work the next day or those who are engaged in jihad may not experience any hardships. The concept here is to keep everything practically simple so that people are not stressed. 

If your father feels too tired after Maghrib and goes to sleep, waking up next morning after Fajr, let him offer both prayers qada.  As long as sincerity and commitment towards Allah Almighty is within a person's heart and mind, Insh'Allah, Allah will accept their qada salat if it is for a valid reason as the one you described.
Posted on: August 02, 2022, 12:02:12 am
Posted by: Nadia Noor
SalamAlaimum. I have a widower father aged 80 plus who resides with us.  He has a strong iman and is very particular about all 5 prayers.  But with age he has become frail with deteriorated health and experiences a lot of exhaustion.  He needs 9 to 10 hours of sleep daily.  In summer time when Maghrib is after 9 p.m. and Isha after 10:15 p.m., after offering Maghrib he often feels too tired and drowsy and falls asleep, waking up after 6 a.m. the next morning.  He misses his Isha and Fajr, because in summer Fajr is around 4 a.m.  He offers both Isha and Fajr qada.  But he worries about missing his prayers on time and wants to know if this is a sin.
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