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Posted on: September 18, 2022, 12:21:03 am
Posted by: Rokaiya
Soon after the cousin got a job in another country.  He returned to that family house after 2 years.  Then didn't see anything any more.
Posted on: September 18, 2022, 12:17:39 am
Posted by: Ruhi_Rose

Interesting.  How did the episode finally end?
Posted on: September 18, 2022, 12:15:44 am
Posted by: Rokaiya
One thing I am sure about jinns that they can sometimes also fall in love with humans.  There was once a lady jinn who fell in love with my cousin.  He had a big garden around his house in a rural area and whenever he would sit in the garden by himself alone, she would appear out of the blue and just smile and stare at him.  Cousin knew something was different, not too normal.  After seeing her twice or thrice, he started getting scared.  Then she got upset and would ask him ‘why do you get so tense when you see me, what have I done to harm you’? 
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 11:32:04 pm
Posted by: a learner
JazekAllah khairan and thankx again.  yes your perception makes sense.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 11:18:19 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker

Well perceived Sister.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 11:10:24 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

Allah Almighty says in the Quran "Surely We created man of the best stature"  (95:4) Surah At-Tin.   In this Verse, the original Arabic word for the translated word "stature" is  تَقْوِيمٍ (taqwīmin).  The literal dictionary translation of this word is ‘evaluation.’   The term most commonly used in English translations for taqwimin is  “stature.”  Other translators have also used words like “form” or “shape” or “mould” or “state.”

“Stature” refers to repute gained by ability and achievement.  It doesn’t mean having a pretty face.  Similarly in translated words like “shape” or “mould” or “state” the reference, in my humble opinion, is to the human capacity of moral development, not external good looks.  A person who is morally strong will automatically reflect outward charm.  But those who are morally corrupt from the inside, regardless of how they look from the outside are insignificant and in the Sight of Allah Almighty they are worthless.

Thus if you read the complete content of Verses 95:4-5, quote:

“Surely We created man of the best stature, Then we reduced him to the lowest of the low,”  95:4-5. 

This alludes to the reality that though Allah Almighty has granted humans the capacity to grow morally, yet there are many who don’t make efforts to grow and remain morally & ethically stunted.  Such people are denied the guidance of Allah because they never tried to acquire it.

Thus, to conclude, I cannot confirm nor can I assume that V.95:4 implies only humans are good looking and all jinn are ugly.  Intellectually humans do have greater capacity to learn and progress compared to the jinn.  But aesthetically only Allah knows best.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 10:42:46 pm
Posted by: a learner
Some opinions say humans are a much more beautiful creation. Even the good looking jinn typically don't look as good as humans.  Quran says Allah has created man in the very best of forms.  You agree?
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 10:12:37 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker

Very correctly elucidated Sister Heba.  Alhumdulilah.

I was recently watching a lecture by a scholar of progressive Muslims website.  He said in arabic Jinn means those creatures or beings which cannot be seen by eye. This also means bactarias and viruses are jinns cause they're invisible.  Is this correct? 

.. and this was amusing 😄
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 10:07:47 pm
Posted by: Ruhi_Rose


So .. Covid-19 is a "jinn"  .....

O man!  some ""scholars"" do have thick heads 😆
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 10:03:37 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

No not correct.  Bacteria and viruses can be seen by lab equipment.  Jinn cannot be seen, unless perhaps if the jinn wish to make themselves visible to humans, not exclusively to lab technicians.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 10:00:26 pm
Posted by: ZehraM
I was recently watching a lecture by a scholar of progressive Muslims website.  He said in arabic Jinn means those creatures or beings which cannot be seen by eye. This also means bactarias and viruses are jinns cause they're invisible.  Is this correct? 
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 09:52:59 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

You're welcome.


Some ulemas also claim there are several different categories of jinn.  This is also extra-Quran information, right?  

Yes, it's completely extra-Quranic.  The Noble Quran simply states the existence of the jinn whom Allah created of smokeless fire.  He has not confirmed nor even mentioned anything about different categories of jinn. Rather we know that jinn like humans have the ability to decide and choose their path of conduct, and thus Satan (who is a jin) chose to be disobedient and became an outcast.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 09:43:50 pm
Posted by: a learner
Thank u for clarification with the Quran verses, and thanks for the link.

Some ulemas also claim there are several different categories of jinn.  This is also extra-Quran information, right?  
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 09:38:09 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn

Salam and peace.   Stories about bones, dung, crap and charcoal are entirely from hadith.  I would advise you to completely ignore them.  There are many more myths released by hadith, some are totally senseless and some resemble the tales of evil spirits in fictions.  You need to overlook all these nonsensical stuff altogether otherwise your confusion will deepen by the day.

To learn authentically about the jinn, focus only on the Quran.  You will get a lot of help if you read our post Jinn in the Noble Quran and all its links at the end of this post.

Getting food for the jinn isn’t a difficult task for them. They can eat wild fruits, fish from the rivers or streams, they can catch, cook and eat birds, they can make themselves visible looking like humans, get a job (temporary if not permanent), work, earn some money and then buy food like humans do. And if jinn need water like humans, they can get it from a lot of places.  These are all possibilities but only Allah knows the precise facts in this regard.  What we know for sure as conveyed to us in the Noble Quraan is that Allah Almighty has made provisions for all His creation.  It is a matter of rizq (provision) as called in Arabic or arzaq (plural, provisions).  After all, wild animals and birds have their own ways of getting food and water for themselves, don’t they?   Sea or water creatures have their own sources of sustenance.  We humans have our own ways, and similarly the jinn have their own.   For all, their provisions are provided by The Almighty.

“And there is no creature on earth but that upon Allah is its provision, and He knows its place of dwelling and place of storage.  All is in a clear register.” 11:6 Surah Hud. 

Also Allah says in Surah Al-Imraan, “Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure." 3:37.

Allah Almighty has made it ample clear in the Noble Quran that He provides sustenance or provision (rizq) to everyone and whoever He pleases. 

This also includes provision in the Hereafter.  “Those who believe and do good works, for them is pardon and a rich provision;”  22:50 Al-Hajj.   This Verse refers to provision in the Hereafter for the righteous.   The same point is also stated in V.34:4 Surah Saba and V.3:169 of Surah Al-Imraan where Allah Almighty mentions the provision (rizq) for martyrs in Paradise, quote “And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Rab, receiving provision,”  3:169 Al-Imraan.   

Similarly one can be certain that Allah Almighty also provides sustenance for the jinn, as He has already confirmed in His Final Message that He provides for every living creature He pleases.   It’s better to leave it at that, not go beyond the boundaries into issues not mentioned nor confirmed by Allah.  Searching for Truth through non-Quranic contents is not only a waste of time but also very confusing because as I’ve already stated dozens of non-Quranic sources have put forth their own puff pieces which are nothing beyond contradictory and confusing tales that can do a lot more harm than good to a knowledge seeker.  The Truth is only in the Quran, and whatever details Allah has not stated in the Quran is because those specifics are not necessary for us to know from the viewpoint of acquiring guidance.  But Allah knows everything and He takes care of everyone.
Posted on: September 17, 2022, 08:13:18 pm
Posted by: a learner
Traditionalists say jinn eat bones, animal dung and charcoal.  This got me a little confused.  I asked my neighborhood imam what bones do they eat?  He said bones which is used for performing black magic and sorcery.  Somehow this idea of eating dung and bones doesn’t make sense to me.  Can anyone throw some light on this issue so I am better informed.
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