Registration of new members is currently closed. Guestbook opened for now.  Guests who have questions may post at our guestbook.  No lengthy debates please. Kindly note: MV is a place for serious learning through mutual consultation where we have zero tolerance for trouble-makers, narcissists and needless disputants. We simply stand for what is compatible with the Noble Quran regardless of titles such as "traditionalism" or "modernism." We have the right to our opinion just as you have the right to yours. All disagreements must be left at that. Final Judgement belongs to The Almighty.
MUSLIM VILLA - QURAN ONLY
February 29, 2024, 11:34:07 pm
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
  Home Help Search Arcade Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register  
+-
Shoutbox
November 01, 2023, 03:44:32 pm Zainab_M: Allahhuma ameen .. ameen.
November 01, 2023, 03:43:43 pm Ruhi_Rose: Yes .. making lots of dua everyday ..... watching those real life video clips, my face feels wet with tears all the time.  May ALLAH grant the best to these wonderful, brave & steadfast martyrs,  Ameen ya Allah.
November 01, 2023, 03:38:26 pm Zainab_M: Keep praying, praying a lot for Gaza. It's worse than a prison .. it's a concentration camp.  Children as young as 10 or 11 are having to care for their younger siblings ages 2, 3 and 4 becoz many have lost both parents.  It's a very, very, very tearful situation there.
October 26, 2023, 03:40:19 pm N. Truth Seeker: Don't forget to look up MV Blog Zainab's Lounge for our Gaza updates.
October 20, 2023, 04:24:44 pm Zainab_M: Right sister Heba.  Gaza hospital bombing has the fingerprints of Israel all over it.  For Israel this is no big crime.  They have done this and much worse many times in the past and intend to do the same and worse many more times in near future.
October 20, 2023, 04:20:20 pm Heba E. Husseyn: Catching Zionist lies isn't hard. Soon after Gaza hospital bombing killing and maiming hundreds, Israel was quick to accuse Islamic Jihad of a misfired rocket.  That didn't sound plausible because IJ does not have such sophisticated bombing devices.  Zionist lie was fully exposed when anglican archbishop of Jerusalem,Hosam Naoum,  said today that 3 or 4 days prior to boming Israel had warned Gaza hospital to evacuate. Yet CIA claims in its flawed analysis that the rocket did not come from Israel.  But conveniently does not explain how Israel could have known 4 days earlier that a "misfired" rocket from IJ was coming.  Yet on the basis of this flawed & bias analysis of CIA, Biden is comforting Israel he believes Israel didn't do that war crimes bombing.
July 29, 2023, 03:02:07 am Zainab_M: Yesterday was Ashura, Muharram 10, 1444 (July 27, 2023).  Read about this very tragic day and details of the world's greatest 7th century revolutionary: WHO WAS HUSSEIN.
June 28, 2023, 09:48:39 am Zainab_M: Walaikum As Salaam.  This was the first Hajj open to all after the pandemic. It was attended by 2.6 million Muslims.
View Shout History
Post reply
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Name:
Email:
Subject:
Message icon:
BoldItalicizedUnderlineStrikethrough|GlowShadowMarquee|Preformatted TextLeft AlignCenteredRight Align|Horizontal Rule|Font SizeFont Face
Insert FlashInsert ImageInsert HyperlinkInsert EmailInsert FTP Link|Insert TableInsert Table RowInsert Table Column|SuperscriptSubscriptTeletype|Insert CodeInsert Quote|Insert List
Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Lips Sealed Undecided Kiss Cry angel Jumping laugh police CatSmiley Sleep smkng sport gdbi cryin dancin simpsons RollLaugh HysLaugh HappyBirthday doggy monkey teddybear sittingbunny BismEm salamem offtem proem oopsem bedtem crybem seeyem thebesem backem soryemt weldem Thumbsup Thumbsdwn rdht teethsmile tonguesmile wsalam tesetong Beatin crazyones LaaughingAway shiiit claaap viictery hiyaaa
+ Additional Options...

shortcuts: hit alt+s to submit/post or alt+p to preview



Topic Summary
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:20:15 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker


It’s always a positive step to give charity to the poor if one can afford it, but doesn’t have to be equivalent to the weight of silver or any such thing. You can additionally give charity to the deserving in cash or kind, whatever and however much you can afford.  It's that simple.
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:18:48 pm
Posted by: Rehman
Other than sacrifice of animal, Aqiqah also involves another charity which could be costly.  Some traditional circles have a rule that after the baby’s hair is shaven or cut, it should be weighed and the equivalent value of that weight in silver should be given as Sadaqah to the poor.
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:16:57 pm
Posted by: Saadia
Thank you Heba and Truth Seeker again for your very sensible clarifications.
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:14:28 pm
Posted by: N. Truth Seeker


Yes right.  Aqiqah is simply a preliminary social event for a newborn child.  At that time the child doesn’t even know what is happening around them. 

As symbolic gestures of bringing an infant within the fold of Islam, you can have the Adhan spoken in their ears and give them a Halal name.  That’s it.  No need to go any further at this stage. 

But the Muslim parents must constantly keep up the Quranic teachings for orientation as the child grows, teaching them the importance of Monotheism (Tawheed) and recitation of the Shahadah as the cornerstone. In other words, the foster parents need to follow the same path of education as they would for their biological child.  This is the only way to help a child, whether biological or adopted, to grow up into a conscientious adult with awareness of Allah Almighty in their heart and mind.  From here onward, those young adults need to put in their own efforts to acquire greater guidance.
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:11:29 pm
Posted by: Saadia
I honestly thank you for this complete information which I didn’t know though I am Muslim.  In view of everything you stated on this topic, does it mean that if a Muslim family legally adopts an infant from a non-Muslim family and perform Aqiqah as soon as possible, that won’t be enough to make that baby a Muslim, am I right?

Posted on: October 05, 2023, 06:05:52 pm
Posted by: Heba E. Husseyn



Walaikum As-Salam.

Aqiqah is a ceremony in our Muslim society that takes place on the 7th day of a baby's birth, but is sometimes performed later.  During this ceremony, generally two animals (goat, sheep, cow or camel) are sacrificed for a baby boy and one for a baby girl. But usually people don’t stick to these numbers and one can sacrifice any number of animals they please for the birth of their child, boy or girl. Sacrificial meat is cooked and shared with family, friends and the community who are in need.  One-third for the family, one-third for neighbors/friends and the final third for the poor, though I doubt if currently this rule is accurately followed considering the soaring cost of meat.  It symbolizes the baby's purification and readiness for prayer and obedience to Allah. 

As a customary practice, in some Aqiqah ceremonies the baby is given a taste of honey to reflect the sweetness and beauty of the Noble Quran. 

Aqiqah is not from the Quran.  It’s purely “sunnah,” that is, from hadith with no conformity with the Quran as the Benchmark.  Unfortunately 98% of hadith practices and rules do not pass this test.

The most common hadith circulated in regard to Aqiqah ceremony is, quote:  “Samra bin Jundub RA reported that the Prophet (P.B.U.H) said, “A boy is pledged by his ‘Aqiqah, so slaughter for him on the seventh day, and do it in the name of Allah” (Transmitted by Al Tirmidhi and Abu Dawoud).  Additionally our ulemas have put their rules saying that if Aqiqah cannot be arranged on the 7th day, it should be done on the 14th day. If not on the 14th then on the 21st day.  If delayed beyond that, then the parents or guardians should sacrifice an animal before the kid reaches puberty.  If there has been no Aqiqah even after the kid reaches puberty then that adult kid should arrange the Aqiqah for themselves.  These are all from human sources, not the Noble Quran.  Thus there is no need for Muslim adults to worry whether or not they had an Aqiqah ceremony as babies.  That does not have any bearing on your soul as long as you are sincere to Allah and you have successfully grasped His guidance.

It is also taken that the baby should be named on the day of the Aqiqah which also springs from another widely circulated unreliable hadith of Abu Dawud, quote: “The Prophet (saw) said ‘Every baby is held as if in mortgage up to his aqiqah.  So, on his seventh day, sacrifice should be made on his behalf, his head should be shaved and he should be given a name.’ ”  Seems like this hadith is apparently a later time forgery compared to the one quoted before, because if it’s necessary to name the baby on day of Aqiqah, then obviously the occasion of Aqiqah cannot be delayed until the child reaches puberty.

The purpose of Aqiqah is a means of expressing gratitude to Allah for the blessing of having a child.  It is also a gesture of seeking the protection of Allah for the newborn from misguidance and all future ills.  So, it is basically a gesture of the parents’ or guardians’ commitment of obedience to Allah Almighty.  If the parents are skeptics, some other member of the family or extended family can arrange the Aqiqah which will be beneficial for them for their gratitude and trust toward Allah Almighty.  As for the babies or infants, they will have to seek guidance of Allah through their own efforts when they turn into adults.  After all, Allah guides those who seek His guidance.  A mere Aqiqah won’t help to guide any one later in life unless they don’t awaken themselves.
Posted on: October 05, 2023, 05:51:41 pm
Posted by: Saadia
Salam Alaikum.
 
Need info on Aqiqah of Muslim children.  Is it obligatory, from the Quran?  If the child’s parents are not believers, then can some other believing person fulfill this responsibility for the benefit of the child?

I need its details and some rational opinion please.
Powered by EzPortal
Scammers & spammers will be reported | © If you borrow MV contents you must mention our link with hypertext | MV Team is not responsible for comments by members or guests.
Bookmark this site! | Upgrade This Forum
SMF For Free - Create your own Forum


Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy