Title: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: Ruhi_Rose on February 25, 2022, 05:43:11 pm Bukhari's fictions / forgeries on Bait ul Mamur are as follows when Allah Almighty has strictly prohibited such guesswork: The Messenger of Allahﷺ said narrating about the journey of ‘Isra wal Miraaj, "Then I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma’mur (i.e. Allah’s House). I asked Gabriel about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma’mur where 70,000 angels perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but always a fresh batch comes into it daily)." Sahih al-Bukhari 3207 and Sahih Muslim 164. The same Hadith continues .. He ﷺ also said, Then the Bait-ul-Ma’mur was raised up to me. I said: O Gabriel! what is this? He replied: It is the Bait-ul-Ma’mur. Seventy thousand angels enter into it daily and, after they come out, they never return again. Sahih al-Bukhari 3207 and Sahih Muslim 164. In regard to such tale-tellers the Noble Quran confirms “And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those (one) will be questioned.” 17:36 Surah Al-Isra. You can read everything about the Prophet's (pbuh) Night Journey (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=670.msg1801#msg1801) in our MV post with all points taken from the Quran and there is nothing about Bait ul-Mamur in the Final Message of Allah. I suppose everyone is aware of the Hadith forgeries I've quoted claiming that somewhere in the heavens or in Jannah there is an identical structure of the Kaa'ba which is supposedly located at a latitude & longitude directly above the Kaa'ba at Makkah. If this was true, it is more or less impossible that The Almighty wouldn't inform us about it in His Final Message. I repeat, the Noble Quran says nothing of the kind, and therefore the Prophet (pbuh) never said anything of the sort either. To support its forgeries, Hadith has stepped further, picking Verse 52:4 (Surah At-Tur) of the Noble Quran, concealing its actual interpretation, and completely misinterpreting it as an allusion to the heavenly and imaginary Bait ul Mamur concocted by the institution of Hadith. Verse 52:4 is as follows: Original Arabic V.52:4 Surah At-Tur. وَالْبَيْتِ الْمَعْمُورِ Transliteration. wal-bayti al-maʿmūri English translation. "And the House frequented," The Arabic word "bait" means 'house' and 'mamur' means a place that is visited often or frequently. In Verse 52:4 "House" refers to the Kaa'ba at Makkah, NOT some other place outside this world. It is that simple. But to understand it still better and to clearly catch the deceit of Hadith, let us read from Verses 1 to 6 of Surah At-Tur (Chapter 54) which includes Verse 4. "By the Mount," (wal turi) 52:1 "And the Book written" 52:2 "On fine parchment unfolded," 52:3 "And the House frequented," 52:4 "And the roof exalted," 52:5 "And the sea kept filled," 52:6 At the start of Surah At-Tur in the above Verses, The Almighty takes an oath of five things that He created. Let us explain it Verse by Verse. "By the Mount," (wal turi) 52:1 The word "tur" in Arabic means mountain. Also, if you refer to Verse 95:2 of Surah At-Teen, "wa-turi sinina" which translates into "And Mount Sinai" .... Allah Almighty takes an oath on Mount Sinai. This was the mountain where The Almighty bestowed Prophethood on Musa (pbuh). In Verse 52:1 of Surah At-Tur, The Almighty again takes an oath on "the Mount" and it's very likely that the reference is to Mount Sinai. "And the Book written" 52:2 "On fine parchment unfolded," 52:3 In ancient times skin of animals were used for writing instead of paper. These skins were made into thin, fine parchments suitable for the purpose. "Book" refers to the Noble Quran, which in early times prior to compilation, was written on fine parchments and constantly read. The expression "parchment unfolded" refers to something that is unrolled and read .. something that is in use. "And the House frequented," 52:4 "House frequented" refers to the Kaa'ba at Makkah with a prophecy. Surah At-Tur was revealed in Makkah prior to the Hijrah. It was a very difficult time for the Prophet (pbuh). Going back further into the past, the Kaa'ba at Makkah was frequented at the time of Prophets Ibrahim and and his son, Ismail (peace on them both) who had built it exclusively for the purpose of Monotheistic worship of ONE Allah. The Almighty knew that soon in future the idolaters would be defeated and the Kaa'ba would again be restored into a place for worshipping Allah alone for the followers of Monotheism (Tawheed). This is the definition of "House frequented" and indeed it is a very correct prophecy. Subhan'Allah. Since the conquest of Makkah until the present, there is constantly a stream of believers visiting the Kaa'ba. The term "wal bayti" ("By the House") which is the Kaa'ba, and "al-mamuri" means frequently visited. It's so easy to follow, yet the Hadith has made a long fictional story with NO bearing on Quranic contents nor any connections with any information in the Quran. I don't know why the Hadith institution behaves in such an offensive and irritating manner again and again, hampering with Quranic Verses by misinterpreting them. The needless tale invented by Hadith is that the "bayti: (House) referred in the Quran is not the Kaa'ba in Makkah but a prototype of the Kaa'ba located in Jannah or somewhere in the heaven close to Jannah. Hadith doesn't stop here. It continues to put more frills on this tale claiming it is visited (frequented) by "70,000" angels every day who come to offer salah, and each day a new batch of 70,000 angels arrive. You can read this Hadith myth at IslamFinder. (https://www.islamicfinder.org/news/all-you-need-to-know-about-bait-ul-mamur/) The Noble Quran gives us NO warrant for such an assumption, thus it must be taken as a fiction and trashed. "And the roof exalted," 52:5 Refers to the sky. "And the sea kept filled," 52:6 Refers to the seas / oceans in earthly world that are always brimming with water as per the Will of Allah. Alhumdulilah. Thus, in the above six Verses of Surah At-Tur, The Amighty has taken an oath on: - the Mount (most likely Mount Sinai but only Allah knows best), - on the Noble Quran preserved and read on fine parchments, - on the Holy Kaa'ba in Makkah, - on the vast sky, - and on the sea. Allah takes an oath on all of the above to assert that the Last Day will surely come and no one can avert it. "Indeed! the doom of your Rab will surely come to pass; 52:7 "There is none that can ward it off." 52:8 The subject discussed by The Almighty in the above Verses is very clear and easy to follow, and the rhythmic chain is remarkable, Subhan'Allah. There is absolutely no mention nor any hint in the Noble Quran of any "prototype" of the Kaa'ba in Jannah nor anywhere in the heavens. But hadith has penned long false tales on it in the same manner as it has concocted many false stories about Isra and Meraj. The term "al-mamuri" in Verse 52:4 is used partly as a verb and partly adjective to describe the Kaa'ba as frequently visited. But Hadith has purposely misconstrued it as a proper noun as if to show that the name of the House (bayt) is al-mamuri. Thus the false Hadith notion of Bait-al-Mamur as a heavenly "prototype" structure of the Kaa'ba in Makkah. Thoroughly false and misleading! Similarly Hadith has also distorted the interpretation of Surah Al-Kausar with a complete misinformation, turning the word Kausar (abundance) (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=1316.msg3776#msg3776)- which in the Noble Quran denotes a common collective noun or an adjective - into a proper noun. Related posts: - The Night Journey of Mairaj (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=670.msg1801#msg1801) - Hadith misinterpretation of Surah Al-Kausar (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=1316.msg3776#msg3776) - Hoax about Eid Mabath (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4720.msg16715#msg16715) Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: Heba E. Husseyn on March 01, 2022, 05:13:29 am Very efficiently elucidated. Alhumdulilah. This topic was somehow not put up in our board as yet. It's really relevant for people to know this because this hadith fib keeps coming around every now and again, and is indeed very irritating. Thank you sister. Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: N. Truth Seeker on June 18, 2022, 03:44:49 pm The Hadith literature really went on a spriteful fraudulent spree in regard to this topic. The other big time Hadith myth is about Baitul Izzah. According to Hadith it's "a house located in the first heaven (the heaven nearest to us) which is in line with the Kabah in Makkah" claims Maulana Muddasser in Islamq&a. (https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/171401/what-is-the-meaning-of-baytul-izzah/) This tale comes from the following Hadith: Quote: Ibn Abbas and others have said, “Allah sent the Qur’an down all at one time from the Preserved Tablet (Al-Lawh Al-Mahfuz) to the House of Might (Baytul-Izzah), which is in the heaven of this world. Unquote: Our jurists admit that "there are no further details mentioned." Let everyone beware and stay away from these myths coming from people who seem to have no fear of Allah Almighty in their hearts. Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: Ruhi_Rose on June 18, 2022, 03:52:07 pm 😯 "Baitul Izzah" ?? When did this fib start ? Btw, why is Hadith so shy about mentioning the names of those who forged Baitul Mamur narrations ? Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: N. Truth Seeker on June 18, 2022, 05:00:50 pm ..... Btw, why is Hadith so shy about mentioning the names of those who forged Baitul Mamur narrations ? [/size][/font] Yes .. I've also observed that Baitul Mamur ahadith are without narrators' name / names. This is what happens in forgeries and cheating, the fabricators make silly mistakes and are often foolishly forgetful. It's just a big mess. Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: Heba E. Husseyn on June 18, 2022, 05:06:42 pm ....... This tale comes from the following Hadith: Quote: Ibn Abbas and others have said, “Allah sent the Qur’an down all at one time from the Preserved Tablet (Al-Lawh Al-Mahfuz) to the House of Might (Baytul-Izzah), which is in the heaven of this world. Unquote: Just imagine the impertinence of this forger, lying directly about the Noble Quran. Whoever's idea it was to speak such a glaring lie ..... may Allah Almighty grant them a severe punishment in the Hereafter. Ameen. Title: Re: Beware of the Hadith myth on Bait-ul-Mamur Post by: N. Truth Seeker on June 18, 2022, 05:07:22 pm Ameen .... |