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On Fate and Destiny

July 07, 2020, 11:23:26 am N. Truth Seeker: InshAllah, vaccine will come but might take a bit of time.
July 07, 2020, 11:22:43 am Heba E. Husseyn: Exactly ... !
July 07, 2020, 11:22:10 am Zeynab: World stuck in a pandemic desperately needs a vaccine.
July 07, 2020, 11:21:18 am N. Truth Seeker: lol true.
July 07, 2020, 11:20:59 am N. Truth Seeker: Very soon it will be neck deep.
July 07, 2020, 11:20:23 am Heba E. Husseyn: Dr. Fauci in US says country is knee-deep in pandemic.
May 30, 2019, 06:15:49 am Zeynab: Alhudulilah, yes sister Ruhi.  Time flies in this fleeting world.  May Allah The Almighty accept our hard work in the permanent world.  That's the real success.
May 30, 2019, 03:43:58 am Ruhi_Rose: Jumaa-tul-widaa (farewell to Ramadan) tomorrow Friday 31.  How time flies!  Ya Allah, keep us close to Your mercy.
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« on: June 16, 2008, 08:52:53 pm »

.. whether "all is from Allah" or "all good is from Allah and misfortunes from ourselves," eventually means the same in terms of reward or consequences.  The only bit you are missing out is you're overlooking a vital capacity that Allah has stated He has provided to the human mind to exercise their discretion.

Yes right Smiley, sister and brother have both cited matters correctly but brother is only missing on that part which sister mentioned.  Those verses from Surahs Al-Balaad and Ash-Shams are very informative on this issue.  There are other such verses too.  InshAllah, I will also quote them here as and when I come across them.

Allah hadn't even pre-destined Iblees (Satan) to hell.  It was Iblees who chose to disobey by preferring arrogance to humility and never repented nor asked forgiveness from Allah.  So, Allah destined him to hellfire which now, none can change.  The Quran states on this issue that when Allah commanded all angels to prostrate before Adam, they all obeyed Allah except Iblees who "demurred" through pride.  Iblees or Satan who was formerly of the angels was also of the Jinn.  This gives information on his disobedience because Jinns like humans, are given the capacity by Allah to select their path of behaviour. 

This part of the discussion also takes me to that very illuminating piece I had received from a relative and the same one sister zeynab also posted in the Writing Room titled Does Evil Exist? ... quoting a conversation between Einstein (while a student) and his teacher in which Einstein proved that 'evil' which dwells within man's heart is his own creation.  God does not create evil.

Another relative of mine didn't agree with this on the basis of the first and second verses of Surah Al-Falaq where Allah says: "Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the Daybreak  From the evil of that which He created;" (113:1-2).  This was because when people read the second verse inattentively without contemplation, they usually misunderstand it by thinking that evil is created by Allah.  But a more careful reading reveals the real truth.  In verse 113:2, Allah does not say that the evil is created by Him.  Instead Allah refers to the being that contains the evil (that is, humankind), which is created by Allah.  But the evil that humankind carry inside of them is their own creation through their misguidance & disobedience to Allah.  And it is this evil from which we need to seek refuge & protection in Allah. 

Assalam Alaykum, peace and thanks Smiley  great discussion!
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