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« on: January 06, 2022, 11:24:45 pm »




Salaam dear folks.   

Yesterday the ustada displayed a very old trick of Hadithists by misinterpreting Verse 4:80 as reference to Hadith.


"He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah."  4:80  An-Nissa.


Please note dear peeps.  It has nothing to do with Hadith.  In this Verse 4:80, Allah The Greatest is referring to the instructions of the Final Messenger (pbuh) to the people in regard to battles fought against the disbelievers. And the Messenger's instructions can only be in accordance to Quranic principles. This aspect is also referred to in Verse 4:61 of the same Surah .. "And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah has revealed and unto the messenger, you see the hypocrites turn from you with aversion."   There are other Verses as well where The Almighty tells humanity to obey the Messenger (pbuh).   All such Verses are NOT a reference to follow the man-written Hadith that began 150 years or more after the passing of the beloved Prophet (pbuh).  Rather, those Verses refer to specific situations of the time, and in every such Verse the direct or indirect allusion is to the Noble Quran itself.  The Final Messenger (pbuh) followed only that which Allah Almighty ordered him to follow through the Quranic Revelations.   It was the beloved Final Messenger (pbuh) who conveyed the Final Message of Allah Almighty to humanity. Thus, Allah Almighty says that whoever obeys the Final Message conveyed by the Final Messenger has obeyed Allah The Highest. Subhan'Allah.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2022, 11:33:56 pm »



Walaikum Salam and hey sis!   Someone at the guest book said some "scholar" told them it's not important to understand the Quran when you read or recite it.  Was that moronic "scholar" this demented ustada's pupil or vice-versa ?
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2022, 11:51:31 pm »



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Honestly, I am left bowled over with the sort of things many of our so-called scholars and teachers say.  I really don't know what type of manipulated conscience they have forced within themselves.   That's why I say never trust the conscience unless it is firmly supported by the Noble Quran.

Thank you for the reminder Sister Ruhi.


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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2022, 11:53:32 pm »



Another Verse which the Hadithists pick to misinterpret very often with the hope to draw attention to the Hadith is V.59:7 of Surah Al-Hashr:  "And whatsoever the messenger gives you, take it.  And whatsoever he forbids, abstain (from it)."   This Verse does not refer to accepting the Hadith narrations.  It refers to the spoils of war and distribution of booty.   Our guests are requested to read the preceding and following Verses of this Surah to understand that this Verse has NOTHING to do with Hadith.

Well explicated Sister Ruhi.
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Very true brother.  Verse 59:7 is also often a target by Hadithists for their manipulation and misinterpretation.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 11:59:15 pm »




Walaikum Salam and hey sis!   Someone at the guest book said some "scholar" told them it's not important to understand the Quran when you read or recite it.  Was that moronic "scholar" this demented ustada's pupil or vice-versa ?   


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Love everyone's input 💗  cause I find it so very true.   Allah bless dear sisters and brother.
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