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« on: October 07, 2011, 12:56:14 pm »



The Noble Quran has made it ample clear that wudu or ablution is only for the purpose of making yourself physically clean prior to prayer.

Yet, I don't know how, Hadith comes up with a wicked tale that washing yourself with water during wudu also washes away your sins.   That's how easy it is according to the ignorance of Hadith to attain piety.

“Abu Huraira reported: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: When a bondsman-a Muslim or a believer-washes his face (in course of ablution), every sin he contemplated with his eyes, will be washed away from his face along with water, or with the last drop of water; when he washes his hands, every sin they wrought will be effaced from his hands with the water, or with the last drop of water; and when he washes his feet, every sin towards which his feet have walked will be washed away with the water or with the last drop of water with the result that he comes out pure from all sins." (Muslim Book 2, Number 475)

“Usman b. ‘Affan reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) said: He who performed ablution well, his sins would come out from his body, even coming out from under his nails." (Muslim Book 2, Number 476)

“Ablution removes the sins of the face, mouth, and the nostrils…(Sahih Muslim, 4.1812)"


It's also shameful that one such false Ahadith has labelled Usman bin Affan as the narrator which is a total lie.  Usman was the third righteous Caliph and never indulged in such nonsensical and sinful talks.

Now, what's really bad is that such disgusting Hadiths have had a shattering effect on the the morals of many Muslims.  Several staunch Hadith followers are seriously convinced that no matter what violations they commit, after they perform ablution, all of their Haram acts are erased.  Bird brained cunning idiots!   Many of these guys, even if they realize the extreme stupidity of such Ahadith, will still adhere to them and support them because such talk suits their Haram behavior making life more enjoyable for them.  These lies have made it simple for those who follow Shaitan to make light of their sins.  These lies mock the Noble Quran which gives so much importance to high morals and modesty.  Though physical cleanliness is also of importance in the Quran, Allah Almighty has made it absolutely clear that the sins of transgression and immorality can only be forgiven with sincere repentance (taubah) and not knowingly repeat them.  Allah NEVER says wrongdoing can be cleansed with water.  These terrible lies also deride the exemplary character and high morals of our beloved Prophet (pbuh).  InshAllah, Allah will deal with all such hoodlums and liars on the Day of Judgment who invent these lies against Allah and His Messenger and propagate falsehood, inviting humanity to darkness from light.

I was shocked and left speechless after reading the following excerpt in a Hadith follower's website.  Please know, the person who wrote this isn't kidding, he really believes it's correct:

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The most important reward from ablution is that it is a cleansing process—not for the body itself, for, even after ablution plenty of dirt and pollution might stay in the body, but from all sins. In reality, a Muslim can commit any number of sins, and just by performing ablution all the sins committed prior to ablution will be expiated. Sahih Muslim (2.0476) writes that if you perform ablution all sins will come out of your body even from your nails. To entice the Muslims to the complete surrender to this endless daily ritual, Sahih Bukhari (1.4.161) writes that if a Muslim performs perfect ablution Allah forgives sins committed between two prayers. In Sahih Muslim (2.0475) we read that during ablution Allah forgives all sins (committed by eyes) for washing eyes. Ditto for hands, and other parts of the body.

The above few sentences will explain why many Muslim students/residents in non Muslim countries such as Australia, USA, Canada and so on demand exclusive ablution facilities in campuses and in other public toilets. They want to do perfect ablution so that whatever sins they commit in infidel lands, such as doing sex with boy friend (infidel), girl friend (infidel), visiting brothels, watching pornography, drinking wine, eating non halal food, joining disco dancing, enjoying infidel parties. Having committed such sins, all they need is to perform a perfect ablution within twenty four hours to absolve themselves from the contrition. Then they can start all over again.

Mind you, the ritual of ablution does not always end with prayer. In Sunaan Abu Dawud (1.1.0220) we read that one must perform ablution between two sexual intercourses.
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This made my head spin like a top.  But at least now I know why the wrath of Allah Almighty is upon so many so-called Muslims.  Such people have gone back to the days of Ignorance.  They aren't Muslims by a long shot.


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 09:23:35 am »




Wicked and preposterous!!  total shit that can only attract filthy flies -->  shiiit

Having committed such sins, all they need is to perform a perfect ablution within twenty four hours to absolve themselves from the contrition.Then they can start all over again.

So this means that everyday they commit sins and every following day they "start all over again" only to commit the same sins all over again and that becomes a cycle.  For this hadith, Bukhari's student, Muslim bin Hajaj should have been severely punished.  He must have himself been a fornicator and is trying to acquire comfort in his own lies.  Disgusting.

Mind you, the ritual of ablution does not always end with prayer. In Sunaan Abu Dawud (1.1.0220) we read that one must perform ablution between two sexual intercourses.

Taubah!  obviously what Abu Dawud is trying to say is that if anyone commits zina (fornication or adultery), it's okay as long as they perform ablution in between every such act of sin.  From where did these idolaters get such ideas?  Why didn't they just keep their filthy gutter talks to themselves?  such bastards!


The Noble Quran categorically states:

"And those who, when they do an evil thing or wrong themselves, remember Allah and implore forgiveness for their sins - Who forgiveth sins save Allah only ? - and will not knowingly repeat (the wrong) they did. "  (4:17-18)

The above Verse and many more similar Verses reject the Hadiths on knowingly repeating the sins and "washing them away with water" everyday. 

Beware Hadith followers who are ruining their own souls by following such horrific lies!  Beware of Hellfire waiting to roast you empty headed sinful debauches. 

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 09:39:23 am »


I think, Bukhari's student, Muslim bin Hajaj should have been given a severe beating for intentionally compiling such unforgivable junk in his collection and calling it "sahih." 

There was a scholar of Islam named Ubaidullah Sindhi.  I don't know much about him but one thing he said was so correct.  He conceded saying: "I cannot teach Bukhari Hadith to any youngster, or to a non-Muslim because of shame."
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 09:13:01 am »



"Those who avoid enormities of sin and abominations, save the unwilled offences - (for them) indeed!  your Rab is of vast mercy."  (53:32)

This is another one of the many Verses in the Noble Quran which throws the hadith on ablution washing away sins out of the window.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2021, 02:16:43 pm »



There is a hadith du'a which is often read in most of our virtual meetings by those who meticulously adhere to hadith (a many of them do), by which I was prompted to analyze this issue and know how such ideas crept in the minds of people, changing them from true Muslims to something else. 

The du'a they often utter is about washing sins with water of snow and ice.  Surely it's meant to be a metaphor but apparently it isn't taken as a metaphor.   It's taken much more literally.   And surely the Noble Quran never uses such metaphors either.

This du'a comes from a few ahadith with slight variations from different sources.   Following are those ahadith.

O Allah! Wash away my sins with the water of snow and hail, and cleanse my heart from all the sins as a white garment is cleansed from the filth "  This is from Ibn Majah using the name of Aisha as narrator.   

Another one attributed to Aisha comes from Nasai:  “O Allah, wash off my sins with the [melted] water of ice and snow, and purify my heart of sins, just as white clothes are cleansed of filth.

Yet another one from Bukhari 1/181 and Muslim 1/419 :  "O Allah wash away my sins with cool water, ice and hail and clean my heart from sins as you purified the white garment of all dirt and  distance me from my sins as you have distanced between the east from the west."

Thus, all of these ahadith in the minds of weak or so-called Muslims or the laggards have become a substitute for the genuine Taubah (repentance) which is the only method of purification stated in the Noble Quran.  You can imagine how much these man-written contents have distorted the concepts of the Noble Quran.   The shock and trauma deepens when supposedly educated people try to justify this sort of incorrect ahadith by using their academic credentials.   I read at IslamBoard where someone who is supposed to be the "head of chemistry department" at Al-Najah school (which could be either in Oman or the UAE) tried to unsuccessfully and uselessly explain these ahadith based on chemistry.  Quoting an excerpt from the words of that teacher as follows.

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Water has a miraculous ability when it is used to clean and dissolve dirt . .. When stains and dirt cling to cloth , the attraction power between the cloth and dirt take place . water penetrates the stain and wet the cloth and because of the polar and the capillary quality of water ,it makes the dirt dissolve by isolating its ions from each other.   ...  But the invocation has referred to another way of cleaning , it is by snow . So how can snow be a way of cleaning? As we know , when water freezes , it becomes snow at zero centigrade and the way in which the molecules connect with each other changes and became like benzene ring .....  There are some dirt such as wax or gum that can't be removed with water or soap because the power of adherence between these stains and cloth is very strong . On putting snow over these stains , the frigidity makes the molecules of this substance come close to each other and contracted , so the power of adherence between them and the cloth decreases with the result that they are disconnected and moved away .  Hail is formed at subzero centigrade , so in case of irremovable stains , hail will make the molecules of these dirt contract much more than the case with snow.

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Despite this long-drawn-out lecture on chemistry wrongly viewed as the basis of those ahadith, this teacher's biggest fallacy has been her failure to distinguish between the huge difference of moral cleanliness and physical cleanliness.   Those people who want to use such falsehoods as a shortcut to continue their immorality would be joyous reading the efforts of such teachers helping to deceive them further.

I'm not sure whether the hadith on water, snow and hail came first or the ones quoted by Sister Heba in the original post of this thread.  But quite obviously one of them gave rise to others and thus proliferate as is always the trend with fallacious contents.

A relative of mine rightly pointed out that this concept of mixing up moral purity with physical cleanliness is another one of those aspects that has plopped into hadith from the deeply erroneous Christian concept of "anointing" which we discussed in our post Various images of Essa son of Virgin Maryam from which I quote an excerpt by Sister Zeynab:  "Yet further falsehood giving him the title "Christ."   Christ means "the anointed."  Literally, anointing refers to the ritual act of pouring aromatic oil over a person's head or entire body for purposes of purification.  How pouring of oil or perfume can purify a person spiritually and ethically is never explained by the storytellers.  With the same connotation, the altered Christian Bibles (which is nowadays fully changed and man-written) refer to Prophet Essa (son of Maryam) as "the anointed" or "christ." "   If you think for a moment, this hadith notion of perpetually scrubbing sins with water is clearly similar with the falsification of anointing.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2021, 02:47:52 pm »



That's very intelligently scrutinized brother.  I really appreciate it.   You correctly perceive that Hadith always has a problem distinguishing moral cleanliness from physical cleanliness even though the Noble Quran has very plainly differentiated these two aspects.

For example, if we read Verses 2:222 and 9:108 .....

"Truly Allah loves those who turn unto Him, and loves those who have a care for cleanness."   2:222.

"Never stand (to pray) there.  A place of worship which was found upon duty (to Allah) from the first day is more worthy that you should stand (to pray) therein, wherein are men who love to purify themselves.  Allah loves the purifiers."   9:108.

In the above Verses, cleanness and purification have two different references.   

The portion of Verse 2:222 which I have quoted is continuation of the topic about menstruation during which married couples are told not to have sexual intercourse for the purpose of maintaining physical cleanness.

Verse 9:108 refers to the hypocrites who built a place of worship (masjid) pretending to be well-wishers but actually their intent was to spark dissent among Muslims with their noxious talk and behavior.  Thus in this Verse, The Almighty forbids Muslims to pray in such a place;  instead we should enter masjids wherein we find the presence of righteous people who are referred to as "men who love to purify themselves."   The aspect of purification in this Verse is in conformity with righteousness or moral purity, not physical.   Needless to say, before going to the mosque for prayers or before starting prayers at home, we have to physically clean ourselves, that is, perform wudu.   But in V.9:108 the feature of purification alludes to righteousness or piety.   Yet almost all traditionalists misinterpret this Verse as reference to physical cleanliness particularly when they are spellbound with fascination over that forged hadith on water and ice.

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2021, 02:52:02 pm »



Very accurate example to cite for clarification, Sister.    I couldn't agree more.
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