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« on: April 02, 2021, 08:58:45 am »









This map was compiled by Ahmed Muhiddin Piri born 1465 and died 1553.   He is also known as (or better known) as Piri Reis.   The word "piri" means captain, and he likely acquired the name "Reis" after his uncle, Kemal Reis, who was also a well-known seafarer.  "Reis" is apparently the Turkish spelling, in Arabic it's spelled as "Raees" or "Rais"  (رئيس) which means a person with authority.   During the Ottoman era, Captain Reis was an admiral and a cartographer. 

Although the map Captain Reis compiled is preserved in the Library of the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul, Turkey, for some reason it isn't displayed to the public.  Yet the "Piri Reis" map is a household name in the circles of professional cartographists and mariners.  Compilation of the Piri Reis map was quite extensive, but we hear that only one-third of this work survives at present.  




Coastal line Brazil


Crossing the Ocean Sea

It clearly shows the coast of Western Europe and North Africa.  It also shows the entire coast of Brazil including the regions today known as French Guiana, Suriname, Guyana and Venezuela.   A number of Atlanic islands such as Canary Islands, Madeira and Cape Verde Islands are also depicted.

Antarctica was discovered in 1820.  But the Piri Reis map shows Antarctica in 1513 (without the ice cap though).  While there could be minor discrepancies in the depictions of certain lands, it's largely quite amazingly accurate for an era when there was no aerial imaging.  He obviously never went to Antarctica.    But his astute navigation instincts did assert that there was something in the southernmost point of the Earth's Southern Hemisphere.




This awesome work often referred as the "harmony of art and science" was a serendipitous discovery as late as October 1929 during the autocratic rule of Kemal Ataturk, when the Turkish ministry of education hired a German national, Gustov Deissmann, to classify the non-Islamic items in the library of Topkapi Palace.  While rummaging through the palace library for medieval charts and maps, a local employee found some old and neglected bundles of documents and parchments.  That's when the Piri Reis map was discovered and shortly afterwards its identification was confirmed by a German orientalist/scholar, Paul Kahle.  The map was drawn and signed in 1513 by the Turkish cartographer Ahmed Muhiddin Piri, also known as Piri Reis.  The discovery of the Piri Reis map was no small feat.  It spurred a lot of excitement and curiosity among Western geographers and various other intellectuals.   No one even knew until now that a 16th century map showing the coast lines of North Africa, Western Europe all the way to parts of South America and the Atlantic islands existed. 

Writes Vintage News  "Professor Hapgood, based at the University of New Hampshire, had studied the Piri Reis Map with his students and found several things that they could not explain. Not only was there the issue of Antarctica without its ice cap, but they noticed that the map was drawn using the Mercator Projection, a methodology not used by European cartographers until the late 16th century."  The explanation is simple: The Ottomans were at least eight decades ahead of the Europeans.

Quoting Daily Saba "Pioneering cartographer Piri Reis combined his aesthetic taste with maritime knowledge in his works, leaving behind some of the most distinct maps in the history of map-making. ..  While searching for the missing pieces in the Topkapı Palace Museum Library, another map belonging to the admiral was found.  This piece showed the north of the Atlantic Ocean and the shores of North and Central America.  The map made in Gallipoli in 1528-1529, bearing the signature Pr Reis bin el-Hc Mehmed (or "Piri Reis, son of Hacı Mehmed"), was probably made for Suleiman the Magnificent.   Researchers claim that the work, which shows Cuba, Haiti, Florida and the eastern coast of North America, is not actually a world map, but a large-scale, special work made to depict both the Ottoman capital and New World together."   Do read this write-up at Daily Sabah to know more of this enchanting history.

And you know what?   For a long time prior to 1929 there were unfounded rumors that a map of the region was diagramed some time during the lifetime of Christopher Columbus.  But no one ever saw it, so the myth was named as the "lost map of Columbus."   When a map of the region was discovered systemized in 1513, it turned out to be the work of the Turkish Ottoman Admiral, Captain (Piri) Reis.  Fortunately the pirate-turned-"explorer," Christopher Columbus, died in 1506, seven years before Captain Reis compiled his map.  Otherwise, Western historians and geographers would have almost certainly stolen the Piri Reis map and dubbed it as the "lost map of Columbus."    As expected, soon after in 1929, U.S. officials were in jitters and irate.  They began constructing fantasies that the so-called lost map of Columbus was also somewhere in Turkey.   The U.S. ambassador in Turkey requested the Turkish government to investigate the matter.  Despite the massive search efforts of Kemal Ataturk's government, nothing such as a "Columbus source map" was ever found.

The Piri Reis map was illustrated in the Turkish 10 million Lira banknote in use until 2009.




Piri Reis has been the target of many false rumors in modern times.   His amazing work is often dubbed as a "myth" by Western conspiracy theorists.   The other fib to tarnish the Ottoman rule claims that Captain Reis was "executed" when he refused to carry out the orders of the Ottoman governor of Basra against the Portuguese in northern Persian gulf.   Completely false!  He died at age 88 when he was well into retirement.  No one appoints an 88-year-old man to lead a naval combat expedition nor is there ever a need to execute a man in his late 80s and nor is there any such recorded data in Ottoman history.   Details of Piri Reis' death are not known because there was nothing significant about it;  he died of age-related natural causes.  Yet another falsification is based on the fiction of "Ottoman brotherhood of assassins" claiming Piri Reis to be a member of this so-called guild.  The folklore began disseminating when the name of 'Piri Reis' was picked in the video game Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. 

Nonetheless, the exceptional works of Captain (Piri) Ahmed Muhiddin which he achieved in the post-aerial photography era stays established without a doubt and continues to fascinate the world.


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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2021, 09:54:08 am »



Subhan'Allah.   This is one of my favorite pieces of history.   And once again, not only has it been downplayed by Western outlets, it's being denied altogether as a fable .... those same folks who are denying the current pandemic. 

The acknowledged fact that the methodology of mercator projection wasn't used by European cartographers until late 1500s is a proof that they were trailing the Ottoman navigators .. and the Ottomans never categorized themselves as "Europeans."  But the disgruntled modern deniers are misinterpreting it the other way round .. that since the Europeans didn't use that methodology until late 1500s, so it got to be fraudulent.   And while they never want to accept Turkey as a European country, how conveniently they do when it comes to supporting their misinformation.

Bundles of thanks for this great piece, Sister Heba.

Allah bless.


 
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2021, 09:57:04 am »



You're very, very welcome dear Sis. 

And yeah, couldn't agree more about the mercator projection.


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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2021, 09:27:55 am »



This is also one of the favorite episodes of history of my dad  🙂   Very nicely covered stepwise, sister.  It's amazing story, isn't it?   So many non-Muslims would wish that old map was hurriedly trashed or to pilfer it and forge a different signature. 

Piri Reis was surely never executed nor was he ever any member of any "assassins creed."  Pile of nonsense.   Western propagandists replete with bitterness, try to switch places between Piri Reis and Columbus .. as if Columbus was the sophisticated and educated mariner and Piri Reis the crook.  Thus they try their best to paint Captain Reis as a corsair.   The entire world is aware that the truth is the opposite.

Insh'Allah, will show this to my dad ..

 

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Subhan'Allah and wowie!   Mesmerizing read.   Extremely educational.   Makes me prouder of our history ..... Alhudmulilah. 


Western propagandists replete with bitterness, try to switch places between Piri Reis and Columbus .. as if Columbus was the sophisticated and educated mariner and Piri Reis the crook.  Thus they try their best to paint Captain Reis as a corsair.   The entire world is aware that the truth is the opposite.

I remember that joke about Columbus coming from modern Americans themselves.  It's about the "Columbus Day sale" on October 12th every year in US stores and a general holiday commemorating the 'landing' of Columbus in the new world.   Someone said in the social media that went viral like wildfire "what's Columbus day sale supposed to be .. are customers supposed to barge into stores with daggers and spears, attack the store representatives and snatch whatever they want?"  Because that's exactly what Columbus did.

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😂 good one.  Actually he never even landed in what's today known as North America.  The guy's story is really sordid. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2021, 09:49:42 am »



That's right.  As time goes by, the "founder" of America keeps getting more and more controversial. 

In a nutshell, what was that goat's story about searching for America?   Would like some information on that.


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The debate between Christopher Columbus being a brave and gifted navigator/explorer OR a greedy and reckless invader isn't inconclusive any longer.   Everyone (especially the academics) know that if Columbus lived at present, he would be called a 'terrorist.'   It's not that he defied his contemporaries across Europe and led "four voyages across an uncharted ocean."  At age of 41, he was already an experienced and accomplished pirate.  He knew how to cut corners and negotiate the most unscrupulous of deals.

Initially "history" said that Christopher Columbus intended to arrive in India but strong winds blew his galleon in a different direction and he mistakenly arrived in another land.    Appalling how a "gifted navigator" could make such a blunder! 

At present, the theory is that he set sail to prove the earth is round, not flat.   That's how western storytellers alter history.   Columbus only cared for booty;  a man with little or no education, he couldn't give a damn for the shape of the Earth.

Columbus was Italian from Genoa but died in Spain.  How come?   That's the proof of his piracy.   He was no "brave explorer" with progressive intent.   CC set sail in 1492.  That was the year when Muslim era in Spain ended, replaced by the fanatical Catholic rule of Isabella and Ferdinand, who by the way, were also profoundly corrupt and greedy materialists.  So was CC and thus he found great friends in them .. until the fallout.  CC wasn't interested in "exploring."  He simply negotiated a contract with Ferdinand and his wife regarding his upcoming plunderous expedition to South Asia and its surrounding regions.  The contract was called "Capitulations of Santa Fe" and one of it's essesntial conditions was to name Columbus the admiral and governor of the land or lands he invaded and plundered.  The second relevant condition was that whatever he plundered and looted (dubbed in Spain as "merchandise")  - gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, spices and much more - a minimal of 10% of all such looted goods would belong to Columbus.   That's how ""selfless"" the "explorer" was!

CC's story doesn't end here.  A lot of modern historians are of the opinion that he never really landed in North America at all.  His "exploration" mission went to places like the West Indies, Haiti and Dominican Rep. in the Caribbean Sea.  Some years later (probably early 1500s) his comrades from the Caribbeans barged into the northern part of the continent to occupy, rob and kill more natives.  CC did arrive in the West Indies and made himself the "governor" residing in Hispaniola.  He wrote in his own diary that the natives were "friendly, healthy, good looking, unarmed and willing traders" .. that CC felt they would make "good slaves."  The natives were soon forced into slavery and punished with severed limbs or executed if they didn't collect enough gold and precious stones.  In addition to the brutal treatment of the natives by CC and his men, the poor natives were also intentionally infected with contagious diseases like smallpox, plague and leprosy carried by these Europeans into the West Indies and Haiti.   Thus, it took little time for the natives to get nearly completely annihilated.  Learning of the wealth of the Caribbean islands, several Spanish colonizers began to go there as well.   With his infinite greed, CC didn't want any 'competitors,'  and thus he didn't deal with them fairly either.  Many new Spanish arrivals in Hispaniola were flogged and executed without trials for baseless reasons.  When Isabella and Ferdinand learned that their countrymen were being abused by CC in Hispaniola, they were livid.  He was urgently called back to Spain where he reportedly arrived in chains.   CC voluntarily admitted most of the accusations against him were true.   He was stripped of the title of governor.   From this point onward, historians have blacked out future happenings involving CC.  But everyone knows Isabella and Ferdinand didn't just strip his title and let him go.  He was imprisoned and possibly also executed.  Whatever happened, it was far from good and sealed CC's fate.   There was no other reason for him to die in Spain and never return to Genoa.

Anyone can double check from reliable educational outlets interested in facts, not fictions.

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🥵    Really bad!   And this criminal is supposed to be the discoverer and first "founding father" of today's USA which seems to have inherited CC's destructive temperament genetically.

This is another very interesting read.  Hearty thanks brother.




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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2021, 10:22:52 am »



Very interesting facts in an essence about Christopher Columbus.   This was precisely the man's profession - plunder and genocide.   And he belonged to very uneducated circles.

Thanks for an honest and riveting account of a man who never was what he is painted to be.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2021, 10:23:54 am »



Welcome sisters ....
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2021, 07:01:13 am »



Very well said it all brother TS.   Christopher Columbus was a hardcore, relentless criminal. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2021, 07:02:31 am »




So, "America" is named after some guy called Amerigo, right?   Not Columbus.   
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2021, 07:09:25 am »



Yeah, it was named after another Italian thief, Amerigo Vespucci.   Historians refer to him as a "lesser known navigator" which means he was probably a lesser experienced pirate than Columbus.   The reason they named the continent after him was because Vespucci perceived that the land mass which came to be called Amerigo was a separate entity, unlike Columbus who thought it was contiguous with Asia.  Just shows how low their IQ was, let alone having any sort of expertise in navigation.  What's the big deal in determining that the new continent was a separate piece?   Shouldn't that be more than obvious to any fool?   And Columbus wasn't even capable of perceiving that.

 
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2021, 07:13:14 am »




Shocked

In Urdu we refer to ones like Vespucci and Columbus as احمق (ahmaq) ...... 😄

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