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« on: August 01, 2022, 11:21:00 pm »



Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Those who draw pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection; and it will be said to them: `Breathe soul into what you have created.'''  Bukhari hadith #1678.


When you're feeling bored and want some funny jokes to chuckle and amuse yourself, just read a few Bukhari & co. forgeries.

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 11:32:43 pm »



lol,, bonkers!  And the explanation given by hadithists is just as bizarre.  They say drawing pics and taking pics are both Haram.  Taking pics is permissible only for official purposes like ID cards, passports, drivers' licences etc.

Previously this crazy hadith was in another Bukhari collection, chapter titled "Tasawir" (pictures) #89.  Now it has vanished from there and is under Hadith #1678 of Bukhari and Muslim bin Hajaj.  Complete mess.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 11:40:04 pm »




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Previously this crazy hadith was in another Bukhari collection, chapter titled "Tasawir" (pictures) #89.  Now it has vanished from there and is under Hadith #1678 of Bukhari and Muslim bin Hajaj.  Complete mess.

Yes, this is another problem with hadith.  If you try to trace it by its reference #, it's not easy.  Many a times you may never find it at all.  Sometimes you may find it in another collection with a different #. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2022, 01:14:53 pm »



It is so sad that our traditionalist schools ignore the aspect of intentions (niyyah) as adamantly and confidently as they always do.  And then make matters a lot worse by attributing lies to The Almighty with false quotes based on their own whims.  They make it so obvious that they want to wrongly portray Allah Almighty as tyrannical, and to wrongly portray the Final Messenger (pbuh) as unprincipled.  Allah will deal with these falsifiers.

"They denied (the Truth) and followed their own lusts. Yet everything will come to a decision."  54:3 Al-Qamar.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 01:29:39 pm »



Very correct Sister.  It is always the approach of people inclined to inflicting tyranny and oppression to present Allah Almighty as harsh, and to depict the Prophet (pbuh) as devious.  If such people grab power in this world, they run amok with their injustices and cruelties.  Thus, Allah so rightly assesses the human mind and its tendencies when He states:  "Say (unto them): If you possessed the treasures of the mercy of my Rab, you would surely hold them back for fear of spending, for man was ever grudging."  17:100 Al-Isra.

These tyrannical ones forget that on the Day of Judgment, they will have NO power.  It is only ALLAH The Almighty who will be in charge and make all decisions.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2022, 01:31:01 pm »



Absolutely brother.   What a beautiful and apt Verse you quoted.  Subhan'Allah.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2022, 01:00:55 am »



It should be known that not only are new ahadith forged every few years by conniving / manipulating sinners, but the references of older false ahadith are being either swapped or vanished altogether, replaced with greater nonsense.  Here are a couple of examples.

(1)   On the day of Judgment, Allah will open His leg and show His thigh to the Prophet to prove His identity. (Muslim (chapter Iman 302); Bukhari, 97/24, 10/29; Hanbal, III/1)   

(2)  The Prophet was asked where Allah was before He created the heavens and earth? The Prophet said, “He was in a cloud – there was air above him and under him.” (Hanbal, VI/11)

Needless to mention, the above ahadith are brazenly sinful forgeries.

The hadith guys are cleverly ashamed of this nonsensical institution and they are now hiding or replacing many bad hadiths with others, though these replacements are anything but grand.  E.g.  "sahih" Muslim hadith # 302 in chapter Iman which I've quoted above is now no more.  In the same chapter, Kitab al Iman hadith # 302 states the following senseless content:  "Narrated on the authority of  Aisha with another chain of narrators like one transmitted by Yunus, i. e. the first thing with which the revelation was initiated with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) except the words: By Allah, Allah would never humiliate you, and Khadija said: O son of my uncle! Listen to the son of your brother."

Cannot make head nor tail of this hadith.
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(1)   On the day of Judgment, Allah will open His leg and show His thigh to the Prophet to prove His identity. (Muslim (chapter Iman 302); Bukhari, 97/24, 10/29; Hanbal, III/1)   

(2)  The Prophet was asked where Allah was before He created the heavens and earth? The Prophet said, “He was in a cloud – there was air above him and under him.” (Hanbal, VI/11)

 

Forgeries that are sinfully disgraceful !!   Only someone with absolutely no fear of Allah in their hearts would narrate and compile such contents.

Another similarity with the altered Bibles, Hadith too is a generation thing. Every generation new ones are prepared. Thus, as one of our colleagues had mentioned earlier, many ahadith known to us aren't known to our parents.  Many known to our parents weren't known to our grandparents.  Many known to our grandparents weren't known to our great-grandparents and so on .. cause bundles of new forgeries prop up every generation.  
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