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« on: January 07, 2024, 06:26:31 pm »
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Salam to all.   Question is regarding V.5:45 and 2:178 quoting

"And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoes it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judges not by that which Allah has revealed: such are wrong-doers."  5:45


"O you who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. And for him who is forgiven somewhat by his (injured) brother, prosecution according to usage and payment unto him in kindness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord. He who transgresses after this will have a painful doom."  2:178 Al-Baqrah.

Does this refer to hurting the eyes, nose, ears and tooth so the victim is empowered to do the same to his or her aggressor?
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Walaykom As-Salam.   

It does not literally mean that.  It refers to retributive justice or retaliation in kind, that is, through the act of reprisal.  The extent of the punishment must be in accordance with the severity of the crime as alluded to in V.5:45.   Reprisal must not exceed the nature of the crime. And if the victim or their family decide to forgo retaliation in preference of forgiveness, that would be well appreciated in the Sight of Allah and could compensate for some of their past sins.

V.2:178 is correcting cultural practices as existed in pre-Islamic times, particularly concerning tribal conflicts involving killing of a person from another tribe.  For instance, if a slave of a tribe was killed by some person of another tribe, the slave's tribe would demand that they want a free man to be killed in retaliation for their murdered slave.  Or, if a woman of a certain tribe was killed, the demand from the victim's tribe would often be to kill a male from the aggressor's tribe.  In other words, the system was to pick anyone for retribution instead of finding the person who committed the crime of murder and giving him the death sentence.  This is what V.2:178 highlights, that retaliation must be based on justice.  Whoever has committed the murder, whether male or female or slave of a free person, must be the person to face the consequences and none else.    There is also a hint to renounce the unjust systems of pre-Islamic times in V.5:50 quote: "Is it a judgment of the time of (pagan) ignorance that they are seeking ? Who is better than Allah for judgment to a people who have certainty (in their belief)"  5:50.

And of course as given in V.2:178, the Noble Quran allows the aggrieved party to receive monetary compensation in lieu of the death penalty, if mutually decided between the two parties.
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And what does Qisas and Diyya mean in Islamic law?
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These mean the same as I explained.   Qisas means retaliation or retributive justice.  Diyya (also referred to as Suluh) means the payment of blood money or compensation.

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JazekAllah khairan for the help and good information.
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You're welcome.
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